Pinnacle Contract Update
03-30-2007, 07:25 PM
#23
Property of Scheduling
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Bus driver
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Just got off rsv for the month of April- Started in Sept and hit the line erly december- this month I only got a build up line... still a few months of rsv. Although DTW is the most junior.
03-31-2007, 07:00 AM
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: CRJ Captain
Posts: 1,406
I think that if you have the time, you have a good chance of getting captain out of class for this summer. REason? There is a lot of fo's here who have more than 3000 hours but want to enjoy one more summer before they upgrade and go back to a bad schedule. I believe that once september hits, upgrade will go back senior for awhile until those people upgrade. On a second note, today is the deadline that we were supposed to have a contract by in order to keep the 17 planes returned to us. We dont have a contract. If NWA was serious about this, we will find out soon. I doubt that our planes go anywhere.
03-31-2007, 08:07 AM
#25
Property of Scheduling
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I think that if you have the time, you have a good chance of getting captain out of class for this summer. REason? There is a lot of fo's here who have more than 3000 hours but want to enjoy one more summer before they upgrade and go back to a bad schedule. I believe that once september hits, upgrade will go back senior for awhile until those people upgrade. On a second note, today is the deadline that we were supposed to have a contract by in order to keep the 17 planes returned to us. We dont have a contract. If NWA was serious about this, we will find out soon. I doubt that our planes go anywhere.
... but i should be a lineholder right out of training though. Unless I get bought out a ton over the next year I should have the 3000. But I did get hired with about 1000, so the 250 hour guys have another year or so- unless mins change which could easily happen. As far as the deadline i dont expect anything to happen b/c there isnt anyone else to cover the flying and we are pretty close to a contract. It would be nice though to get some pressure on PNCL mgmt by NWA mgmt.
04-02-2007, 10:40 AM
#28
Cloudbase
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 717A
Posts: 538
I keep hearing rumors that E9 Mgmt refuses to raise pay in order to keep costs down...seeing whereas Mesa makes more 2nd year than we do, I don't really understand keeping such substandard rates and then wondering why they cant fill the front seats. Does this rumor hold any water at all?
04-02-2007, 06:59 PM
#29
Property of Scheduling
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juat got an email from the PNCL ALPA MEC and the issues still on the table are: job protections, compensation, health/retirement benefits and duration
Things agreed on for the positive are:
• High-speeds will be built into all high-speed lines
• Elimination of the ability to extend a reserve into a day off
• Minimum 11 days off for line-holders
• Elimination of scheduled reduced rest overnights under 9 hours
• Strict limits on junior assignments and extensions
• Build-up lines with a minimum of 12 days off
• Strict rules limiting how and when you may be contacted during a trip
• Elimination of the requirement that line-holders to “check out”
After hard negotiations the pilot group is 8.3% off of what mgmt is willing to go to over the 5 yr contract- so 1.6% a year gap. Next is an arbitration board and who knows... NW can take 17 planes away at any time but really have no reason to do so- they dont have anyone who can just step in and fly em... Time will tell I guess, but thats the latest. There is a conference call friday I believe but I imagine it wont have too much new stuff in it.
Things agreed on for the positive are:
• High-speeds will be built into all high-speed lines
• Elimination of the ability to extend a reserve into a day off
• Minimum 11 days off for line-holders
• Elimination of scheduled reduced rest overnights under 9 hours
• Strict limits on junior assignments and extensions
• Build-up lines with a minimum of 12 days off
• Strict rules limiting how and when you may be contacted during a trip
• Elimination of the requirement that line-holders to “check out”
After hard negotiations the pilot group is 8.3% off of what mgmt is willing to go to over the 5 yr contract- so 1.6% a year gap. Next is an arbitration board and who knows... NW can take 17 planes away at any time but really have no reason to do so- they dont have anyone who can just step in and fly em... Time will tell I guess, but thats the latest. There is a conference call friday I believe but I imagine it wont have too much new stuff in it.
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