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Old 03-30-2007, 05:41 AM
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there are lots of talks but I have been told then when it comes to compensation the figures have not been released. Only a few people know and supposedly its a drastic improvement. It is quite possible that the company is saying $30 and the pilot group is wanting $35. That could be the clear reason why nothing was agreed on when they met last on the issue of compensation. I am sure we will at least have industry average. I dont think anyone is really looking for FO pay to be the industry leading b/c most guys are here 2 years then they upgrade. CA pay isnt horrible (compared to FO pay) and there is talks that CA pay is getting a bump too. PNCL is a place where you can go and within 4 years go from 1000 hours as a flight instructor to 1000 hours jet PIC and look at majors. Nothing against air wisc but the time takes a bit longer- yet you are treated better in the process. I do hope that it goes to at least $35 for 2nd year, and am hoping for a little bump on first year by $5 at least (about $25ish)- thatll help me live just a little easier for the next 7 months... another thing thrown around is trip/duty rig... but I think there was already an agreement about that.
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So...are you gonna make that jump fosters?
If they get close to hiring street hires I might.
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Old 03-30-2007, 05:50 AM
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Just saw that two newhires in 9Es most recent class were awarded CA...

I suppose that's something to think about as well.
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Originally Posted by fosters
If they get close to hiring street hires I might.
Supposedly 2 new hires got CA slots.....
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interesting...
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Old 03-30-2007, 05:53 AM
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Compass, Big Sky, Lynx, and evidently now Pinnacle are all hiring street captains.

Good luck to anybody interested in making that leap...
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:09 AM
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Thanks for the input. I called Ms. High last week and she confirmed the hiring like mad. She would not discuss any contract issues though. With the direction the industry is going, it is high time for pilots and unions to step up and force companies to make compensation a little more commensurate the amount of training and risk the average pilot performs throughout his/her career. If you haven't noticed....AVIATION IS BACK!!!
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Old 03-30-2007, 11:33 AM
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Union is proposing $33/hr for 2nd year FO pay. That's what I know for sure.

They are also proposing a trip/duty rig. It may be agreed upon already, I forget. I also don't recall if it was a trip or duty rig.

It is a "sure thing" that PCL will be flying 15 CRJs for DAL out of ATL. It won't be made official until the pilot contract is complete.

Compensation, scope, and specifics with the recent Colgan purchase are the only things left in negotiations.

I recall these points because they are the things that stuck out. All information was gathered during a recent jumpseat experience. The source is as reliable as they get. However, feel free to still consider all points listed as rumors since nothing has been inked yet.

From what I gathered, it will not be "industry leading", but a slightly better than average contract.
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Old 03-30-2007, 11:34 AM
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It is a "sure thing" that PCL will be flying 15 CRJs for DAL out of ATL. It won't be made official until the pilot contract is complete.
Sure thing. Man, ain't this industry filled with "sure things"...
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Sure thing. Man, ain't this industry filled with "sure things"...

Hence, my usage of quotation marks in my original post...
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