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Old 01-10-2018, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
I'm not at EDV anymore, so I don't have the exact numbers handy.

There is a limit to x% of the CAs can go to Delta in a year, if the number is projected to exceed that then they can slow down the interviews. Everyone still goes right away when they interview and once you have an interview date you still have it. Remember, they are using this program to attract people to backfill those seats, so stopping movement is counter productive.

The entire idea for this program is to make EDV an attractive place to go and secure a supply of pilots to Delta, the supply of pilots to mainline is supposed to be the primary of the two. AA is using the flow simply as a carrot and reducing the amount to staff the regional. EDV is part of Delta's hiring plan for mainline as retirements increase.
I will say this program is better than the cpp that united has with its regionals. Talking to a couple xjt recruiters a while back who have been there for 4-5 years, they both passed their interview but still have ~2 years and about 200 people ahead of them who also passed plus more who have yet to interview before they get on with united. Also, now they might integrate all the asa guys somehow to the cpp further prolonging their class dates.

As for aa's method, it seems to be working better to attract pilots than the guaranteed interview edv is doing as they are getting enough pilots and did not have to convert their bonus to pay like edv did. It's a for sure thing as opposed to a chance and is a no brainer for anybody looking to go to a major with spotty records, dui's, checkride busts etc. It may be primarily to staff their regionals, but its guaranteed movement. Edv has greatly increased pay to compete with the aa regionals. I wonder if one day delta will alter the hiring agreement to compete with aa somehow.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Milksheikh
I will say this program is better than the cpp that united has with its regionals. Talking to a couple xjt recruiters a while back who have been there for 4-5 years, they both passed their interview but still have ~2 years and about 200 people ahead of them who also passed plus more who have yet to interview before they get on with united. Also, now they might integrate all the asa guys somehow to the cpp further prolonging their class dates.

As for aa's method, it seems to be working better to attract pilots than the guaranteed interview edv is doing as they are getting enough pilots and did not have to convert their bonus to pay like edv did. It's a for sure thing as opposed to a chance and is a no brainer for anybody looking to go to a major with spotty records, dui's, checkride busts etc. It may be primarily to staff their regionals, but its guaranteed movement. Edv has greatly increased pay to compete with the aa regionals. I wonder if one day delta will alter the hiring agreement to compete with aa somehow.
You answered your own question there. Those aren't necessarily going to mean you can't get on with Delta, but they aren't going to give up the decision. I think you'll see RJs transferred to the mainline certificate before that happens.

The only way Delta would do a flow would be if they made EDV applicants do the full Delta interview (which is what the ETD program was). I can tell you though that the praise for current EDV pilots has been very high. And I think they are aware they'll need a good pass rate for the interview program to be a good attractant. And when it comes down to it, it really is the best way to ensure getting a Delta interview short of checking off some mil or other boxes that can be difficult to check.
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