cowboypilot

I know this has been covered before to some extent but my case is a little different and I would appreciate your input,

I'm 23, I have around 630 TT and 60 multi (270 Dual given). I graduated college when I was 20 with a 3.2 GPA, I have good job refrences (never been at a job less than three years), I have volunteer time, letters of recomendation from professors, I have never failed a check ride, I have good friends flying at almost every regional airline in the country that will write me letters of recommendation and walk my resume in.....

my problem is I have two negligent driving misdemeanors on my record. Neither time my license was suspended. When I got the two neg's I wasn't working as a pilot (at the time didn't think I wanted to be a pilot anymore). Before these two I had never even had a ticket! I have never had an accident.

Do I have any chance of getting hired? will my good qualities out weigh two bad incidents?

My record looks like a responsible person with a time period of stupidity; will stupid and young work as a defense or am I sank?

I appreciate your input. I want to get back in the industry but I'm worried I excluded myself already.

JoeyMeatballs

Well lets see, I barely got through college, busted a checkride or two........... Had a speeding ticket, or two.................almost had my driving license suspended due to a unpaid parking tickets, had several jobs that I quite after a week or two............................and I am two for two with my 121 interviews, your fine just be honest were human we all make mistakes, its not learning from them that will kill you................So I wouldnt get a third negligant driving ticket or whatever, what did you do by the way?


PS. Most imporant thing is that while you mature these types of things shouldnt happen...........most of the stuff I mentioned above happend a few years ago, I am a little more conservative now

cowboypilot

maybe I should of clarified, neg driving in washington is alcohol related. So in other words I got charged for DUI's but because my BAC levels were .083 and .087 (about 1/4 beer over the limit in WA) and there was some scetchy police work they gave me neg's.

I don't even think that they go on the NDR (national driver registry) but I haven't checked that out yet; however it sounds like if it is below a reckless driving it isn't on it. If neg's aren't on the NDR would that be a big plus since that is what the airlines check?

and yes I know I'm an idiot so that doesn't need to be stated, I have already kicked myself enough for these. But I would warn everyone it only takes a couple beers to be over the limit. And they don't have to have a reason to pull you over, I was pulled over for a dirty license plate.

JoeyMeatballs

I dunno bro, two DUI's is tough can you even hold a Medical with two of them?


PS. Shouldnt stop you though.................Supply & Demand, the regional pilot pool is drying up very quickly sooooooooooooooooooooo Get your time & apps in. And......................Don't let anybody tell you,"you won't, can't get hired" thats BS, You'll be fine keep ya head up, and get a Fu*** Designated Driver.....

WestCoaster

A friend of mine with 3 DUIs recently got hired with Pinnacle. In an interview, make sure to give the whole story, what you've learned from it, and why it won't happen again. If they see that the overall package is good, they'll probably take a chance on you. Especially during a pilot shortage like the industry is having right now.

ghilis101

its stil neg driving and not dui, so theylll never know alcohol was involved? when they do the driving record search will it show that it was alcohol related?

dojetdriver

Good point, but sometimes HR people can be VERY savvy when it comes to that kind of thing.

EX; Where I live, it's very common to have a speeding ticket knocked down to defective vehicle. You pay a bigger fine and all that crap but at least it's not a moving violation on your record. How many cops ACTUALLY give out defective vehicle tickets? In other words, some KNOW what the ticket was orginally without needing to ask.

I'm not saying this is the case all the time, but be very careful if it comes up.

rickair7777

Since DUI is often reduced or plead down to negligent or reckless, anything worse than speeding will raise red flags...

1) They will ask you for details...are you going to lie?
2) They can probably reference the court records to check for themselves.


So yes, he will have to confront the issue, but I agree that he should be able to get a regional job. He may need to put a year or two behind him with no further tickets. If this happened when you were 18, you should be OK now if you handle it right.

XSive

If the infractions dont show on your drivers record as a DUI, you should be alright. Just make sure you are honest when you disclose the information.

I think your first move should be to obtain a copy of your driving record. See what it says and how it is worded. Every state formats their records differently.

There is a guy in my class with a DUI, he made sure that the airline was aware of this, and he still go the job

de727ups

"its stil neg driving and not dui, so theylll never know alcohol was involved? when they do the driving record search will it show that it was alcohol related?"

In Washington State (I happen to live there), everybody knows that 1st degree neg driving is what you get when you plead down a DUI. I would think airline interviewers are savy enough to know that sort of thing.

Something like this can hold you back a while, cost you a job or two, but it's no reason to quit the career.