sflpilot

If it went in as a negligent driving offense instead of a dui then it's not an alcohol related offense. Remember the cops can arrest you for something, but getting a conviction on it is another matter. So the medical should not be a problem. As far as the airlines, I don't see any problems because he does not have a dui and his license did not even get suspended. He will just need to explain the driving offenses if they ask for them. If they hold it against you because they think it was dui then there is not much you can do. The important thing is that you avoided problems with the faa over the alcohol related issue.

АЕРОФЛОТ 214

I would call the NDR and see what shows up. Also you need to get your DAC report as well to see what was enter on that as well , because this what most employers use to obtain your driving. If these offense do show up you need to see if you can get this file sealed. You may have to hire a leagal rep to peform this task for you. If the file is sealed then on any job application you fill out is as it never happened. But you need to find out what they can find you see where I'M going

cowboypilot

on the FAA page it says you don't even have to report a neg driving to them, and I think the medical just asks if you have ever had you license taken away because of alcohol offense (if I remember correctly)

I appreciate the response guys, I think I'm extremely lucky that it wasn't a DUI I got!

I just wanted to make shure that there is hope, I'm willing to put the time in. And I think (or hope) that they will see that besides those two incidents I have always been a very responsible person. Just a spike of extreme stupidity.

I think a negligent driving in the 1st degree is still an alcohol related offense but I think it is the only one that isn't a gross misdemeanor (like Reckless driving or a DUI)

thanks again!

FL410

It is a tough one. Be honest and upfront. The things that stick out to me is that your 23 and you have blown 2 time over .08. It has to be recent or you would get an MIP.
Not to be a jerk but after the first one why did you put yourself in a position to drive home when you must have been feeling marginal. You are going to be a pilot and alcohal is a bigger deal that if you are a retail salesman. (The salesman would most likely make more money that the pilot though.)
To check see your chances apply at BigSky, you will get your interview with your time and explain it to their chief pilot. See what he says.
It sounds like you feel bad about what happened just be upfront and tell them what happened and what you have learned from it. Take what I say with a grain of salt becasue I am 1/4 in interviews. Good luck.

GliderCFI

Are you sure? Pinnacle flies to canada. Canada won't even let you cross their borders with a DUI. The only way to get around it is a waiver from the Canadian gov't, however it can't be that bad, considering the forms are on Pinnacle's web page.

lear24

It is that bad, I know a guy applying for it now. It takes a long time to go through, and is a pretty big headache.

Regarding the original question, apply to Piedmont, they are hurting so bad for people right now it's not even funny. Be honest about the whole thing and how you've learned from it, and if nothing else, you'll get good interview experience and practice explaining it!

ImperialxRat

Just got this email today about Peidmont. Here is a small excerpt:

"I heard one of the check airman talking about the (unofficial) minimums for
hire being lowered. I think he said 300 or 350 hours total time."

Edit (adding this):

The most recent captain hire date whatever thingy on APC lists it as being pre-9/11. That accurate? If so thats a mighty long upgrade time.

coldpilot

They came to UND talking about pre-hiring Juniors! Juniors! They want to hire based on grades and are lowering the mins to 300TT, no multi requirement. Crazy if you ask me. The way it is supposed to work those that get pre-hired most likely won't even have their multi rating when they are hired.

lear24

Not sure about the new mins, but I am sure they will be lowered. The class that started last week (this is all rumor mill stuff, of course) went like this: 24 invited, 15 accepted, 8 actually showed to class, 5 left within 2 days. They are down to 3 guys in class out of 24 they invited. Can't find bodies willing to come to class! If you can fly the dash 8 sim (if you're a good instrument pilot in a frasca you can fly that thing) and aren't cocky, you should get the job.

The upgrade doh is accurate, it is part of the reason for the mass exodus of FOs right now. There are hardly any FOs (less than 10) on the list hired between 2001 and 2004. If the place survives and upgrades proceed, the upgrade doh will move from end of 2001 to 2004 almost instantly, FWIW.

Ellen

1) Your handle of "Cowboypilot" has a connotation of a renegade to me, but that is besides the point . . . For all I know you live in WY.

2) Neg. Driving. Problem I see with this is that you have (2). One is easily explained. The second? Sketchy.

3) Your age. (23) If you received these Neg. Driving tickets at 23 and are now 33 . . . with no infractions since, that to me is a more safe bet for a hire.

4) Airlines will find out even if not on the NDR. so tell the truth

5) You are in a good position now since airlines are hiring anything that remotely qualifies as a pilot. If I were you . . . Fly only multi-engine for your next 350 hours and then go and apply with 1000TT and 400 multi. Much will be overlooked I bet.