nogo!

Looks like some of Mesa's former hostages are seeing the light...

http://starbulletin.com/2007/03/09/b...s/story01.html

ImperialxRat

This makes me happy.

bintynogin

"We win contracts, we lose contracts," he said. "These small towns have had these small carriers come and go. We will reallocate our assets elsewhere."

man this guys is really sure of himself...

kansas

Just another episode in the crazy world of EAS.

XtremeF150

Well, most of our pilots are so sure that the deal that is on the table for Air Midwest will go through that they have already started studying for their next job or aircraft. With the great possibility of taking some huge cuts to EAS service next year, many think the end is near anyway for the once great regional (Air Midwest). JO has successfully gutted the operation and is now ready to sell off whats left.

We do lose contracts and pick up others but we are 2 cities in the hole if the close Hobbs, and it sounds like a done deal out in NM. I know I am tired of working crazy hours because they can't staff this place.

Today, we recieved a company email offering up to 1,500.00 bonus for bringing on a new hire and he / she staying for 2 years. 500 for training and 500 more for each year after that. Catch is they have to stay through training and those 2 years....as well as you have to stay to collect this money. I wonder how many ppl will be dumb enough to try and take advantage of this. I personally don't hate anyone enough to send them to the wolves.

They also waived the 50 bucks for the application and started paying for rooms during training. So for all you new guys thinking about trying it, This should prove just how bad things here really are. I think ppl are finally starting to understand that QOL is something that CANNOT be sacrificed...especially for the contract and pay we have. That is all for now.

Oh and with the new standing bid today.....the RJ upgrades remain at 2 years 3 months for ERJ and 3 years 5 months for CRJ. Is it worth it!!

nwa757

Is the ship starting to sink? YES.

Is it worth going there? NO. Section 6 negotiations are going to be rough seas... I wouldn't want any part of it.

Mouse

I hear rumors like this on a daily basis, remember rumors come and go, but untill the paper work is signed, filed with the FAA, approved by the FAA, and they send the form to be filled out in triplket to have your request processed, and then filed with the FAA, and the FAA could take 7 - 10 working years to get back to you about the period in the wrong place. And then another 7-10 working years, for it to be final.

I would not worry about it.

172capt

Who cares anyways pacific wings is just as bad as mesa. Have heard numerous reports from people that have called pertaining their "first officer program" in which you sign some crazy contract and they train you on the caravan then hire you to throw bags and other crap then when your not doing that you get to pick up a couple of legs in the caravan. Which is probably not even loggable. And what do they pay you for your service $8.00 and hour. Oh and I am hearing they actually try to inforce their contract. So yes mesa may be out of some flying which is good but we did not gain anything from another shady operation getting it.

DMEarc

172- You obviously haven't been around very long...

The problem with Mesa isn't their pay...it's industry standard. The problem is how they treat their pilots.

Pacific Wings' pay is bad, but pilot's I know are treated better.

Sometimes sacrifices have to be made to gain others.

172capt

Well maybe you should read what I wrote again.... Most of what I had to say was about their first officer program and how they get fresh commercial pilots to sign a contract to get trained on the caravan then force them to throw bags and other crummy jobs for 8 dollars an hour so they might be able to pick up a few lines when they are not working for below standard pay. To me thats is just as bad if not worse then mesa.... come be our slave and we might let you sit right seat in a caravan in which you really can't log the time legally. Now you tell me that is a way to treat an employee. So tell me exactly what we are gaining out of this besides mesa not doing some flying. Cause all I see is another low cost regional with pilots who not only fly but are lucky enough to throw bags and clean lavatories. I dont even think mesa pilots have to do that! I was not trying to say mesa is great just voiceing my opinion about that this is nothing to really celebrate.