sweetholyjesus

No, I agree with you. I just find it strange that people would dismiss the idea completely.

sweetholyjesus

I can't help but notice that you failed to answer my question.. Don't bother trying to stir stuff up with me if you cant even back up your own statements.

CBreezy

I've flown with more than an insignificant amount of people who use Ferguson as an "example of why blacks shouldn't be allowed in the rest of society." Others have said they wouldn't get caught dead in Dearborn with all those sand-n's trying to blow them up. And even some who refuse to go to Mexico because the locals are drug-running murders who are going to try and kidnap them.

All of these examples have happened at both the regional, legacy and things I've heard as a jumpseater. To say that these things aren't offensive to minorities or not prevalent is simply not true.

John Carr

You're question was founded on something I NEVER SAID.

rickair7777

You must fly for a different airline than I do.

But myself and many other old school surfers don't go down to baja anymore...the violence is real, and kidnapping is in fact a sideline for the narcos. That's not racism, just common sense despite what political correctness might dictate. It may be starting to get better, but I'm going to give it some time. Mexico city is OK though if you avoid the bad parts.

CBreezy

You just aren't in the right seat anymore. I don't agree with a lot of things my captains say but to preserve the peace, I rarely speak up to say what they say is simply not true. Unless the guy just absolutely insists on getting my perspective, I never bring up my political leanings. To those that are aggressive enough to insist I play along, they are SHOCKED that I don't toot the Trumpone or that I am fully supportive of gay rights or, in general, lean far left of most pilots (not really that far left)

I'm sure this is the same game most FOs have played for years when they sense their politics differ from their crew partner. If you don't talk about minorities derogatorily, you more than likely have given that away somehow and the FO you're flying with has just toed the line.

It also helps where you live. These attitudes prevail mostly from people east of the Rockies and from those living in the South or small towns.

ShyGuy

General Lee is a part of history, whether one likes it or not. Only SJWs and left wingers are offended enough to demand that statue be removed.

"A people, professing to respect our constitution, should be strong enough to accept that"

Tell that to the "anti-protestors" who were basically holding signs of BLM, F-words, and other hatred signs and instigated the white power group. Lets face it, despite what CNN and MSNBC are showing on TV, this wasn't a one-sided attack where the whites were in the wrong and everyone else was innocent..........






I don't like their message - but it's their right, protected speech, and right to assembly. So as long as they do it peacefully without harming persons or property, they can say what they want. The liberal message is you only have free speech and a right to protest and assemble IF you tow along their line - their beliefs. If not, you don't have a right to have that opinion. That's the new left.

And I'm saying this as a non-white person, someone who immigrated here in the early 90s.

CBreezy

Holding a BLM sign or F words isn't instigation. That's also free speech. If anything is instigation, it's driving hundreds of miles to a town that if 80% liberal and holding a hate rally with Nazi signs and torches. Might as well bring the pitch fork. Even Foxnews was condeming the white supremacist protestors in VA. That's saying something

ShyGuy

It is instigation, and clearly some of them brought weapons. I have yet to see the white power or KKK show up in a BLM protest in Ferguson, Baltimore, or any of the other s---- shows that have happened. Have your own protests, and let them have theirs. Doing it at the same time is inevitably going to lead to violence. Zero common sense. Why the hell would anyone go anywhere near this white power protest? Who's mind you gonna change? What will you prove? Proper answer would have been to let this go, let it play out, and then later down the road do some unity event. Instead, anti-protesters (what a PC label btw) decided to go thug the white power group. And it's sad about the lady who died, what a life wasted. And for what. Personally I'd never Go to a mass protest. Too many people, too many emotions, zero options for a quick out/escape, mass stampede chances, and mob mentality. I think you'd be putting your life at risk going to protest one of these events.

C130driver

Those are offensive and disturbing statements, but they are hardly unique to the airline industry let alone America. Travel the world and see how racist other cultures can be. It's like saying "pilots go potty," newsflash- everyone goes potty. Like Rick777 already said, no reason to stir something from nothing.