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Old 08-13-2017, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus

If an English pilot wanted to come here to fly passengers, he'd have to start as a regional FO making $30,000.
That would depend on his qualifications? Why couldn't he get a job at a major?

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.. he could go to Dubai or China and make six figures right away.
And experience the joy of living in Dubai or China.

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some of the desperate regionals here won't sponser work visas for foreigners to fly for them. We don't exactly win the prize as far as hiring foreign pilots.
And what affect do you think this has on pilot wages in the US?
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
That would depend on his qualifications? Why couldn't he get a job at a major?
Supply and demand. Why does a C5 commander have to start at a regional in the US?
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And experience the joy of living in Dubai or China.
What's your point? The same can be said for anyone based in DTW
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And what affect do you think this has on pilot wages in the US?
Not good, but also not much if any affect at all. The reason is because there aren't many foreigners beating down the doors to make $30,000 flying RJs over here in the first place.
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:26 AM
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Judging from the OP's only other post, it seems like he's been in this country, flying on and off, for several years. So he's quite possibly an American and using the word "foreigner" incorrectly. Things like this tend to get lost in translation when reading online text from someone who can speak more than one language. So, hopefully that makes at least some difference in some of you people's sentiments....There should be zero issues here with an American that happens to have dark skin or an unfamiliar accent.
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Supply and demand. Why does a C5 commander have to start at a regional in the US?
What's your point? The same can be said for anyone based in DTW
Not good, but also not much if any affect at all. The reason is because there aren't many foreigners beating down the doors to make $30,000 flying RJs over here in the first place.
Again. You're beginning from a false assumption: that every pilot who comes to the US has to start at $30,000. Where are you getting this from?

(BTW, most pilots who are based in DTW commute in.)
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(BTW, most pilots who are based in DTW commute in.)
This doesn't help your case
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Again. You're beginning from a false assumption: that every pilot who comes to the US has to start at $30,000. Where are you getting this from?
Not an assumption, more like a realistic expectation. I'm sure there are odd cases, especially with HR running the show.
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
May I ask what your point is? Is that an excuse to exhibit bias and racism here? Especially towards Americans with "foreign" accents?

What's wrong with a high-paying contract job? Certainly attractive to people on furlough or who can't afford to net less than $30,000 as a regional FO.
May I ask what your point was?

The guy that quoted you originally pretty much summed it up.

I NEVER posted that ANYTHING was an excuse

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Supply and demand. Why does a C5 commander have to start at a regional in the US?
Where does it say that a C5 commander had to start at a regional?
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:07 AM
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You're so full of it. Trying to start a race war on here? People have their own problems and could care less about your race or your feelings.
+1!

As long as you are a safe and competent pilot, IDGAF what race you are.
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Is it so hard to believe that an occupation that has traditionally been dominated by older, conservative white males might have a streak of racism? When PSA was growing I heard and read several comments about the Eastern accents a lot of their new pilots seemed to have, as if it were some kind of problem. I won't even dive into all the comments I've heard about women, minorities, and lgbt people when it comes to getting the next job.

At the same time, OP, if you are looking for some kind of safe space, you are looking in the wrong industry. Be professional, friendly, and do your job and you'll be fine pretty much anywhere. But to answer your question: SkyWest, PSA, Commutair, and Piedmont are probably better choices to find what you seek. They are junior, more diverse carriers.
Odds are if you look really hard in certain old-school airlines you could find a bit of racism. But that's probably true of anything in certain parts of the country.

But airline pilots in general are going to be more tolerant than society in general, due to the fact that they're educated and have typically traveled for both work and pleasure.

Don't go looking for trouble where there doesn't need to be any.
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:32 AM
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Wow! This thread is very revealing.
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