View Poll Results: Piedmont or Envoy
Piedmont
30
48.39%
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32
51.61%
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Piedmont vs. Envoy
08-10-2017, 09:28 PM
#21
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Last check was August interviews for December/January classes. Folks are regularly getting advanced in classes if they're flexible and willing to be put on a waiting list for an earlier class date.
08-12-2017, 02:53 PM
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08-13-2017, 10:25 AM
#23
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Congrats to the OP!
Question: are you using the MTP, or paying for your training outright? Does Piedmont still offer their MTP? I wasn't able to find it on their website at all, though it's buried in a January 2017 posting in their "News" section.
Thanks
Question: are you using the MTP, or paying for your training outright? Does Piedmont still offer their MTP? I wasn't able to find it on their website at all, though it's buried in a January 2017 posting in their "News" section.
Thanks
08-13-2017, 11:28 AM
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I'm curious why not PSA? All 3 WOs are a great choice for someone looking at a regional airline but if you can't get the 145 in MIA, then commuting to CLT or DCA will likely be easier than a commute to PHL.
In a nutshell:
PSA: best QOL of the 3 WOs, worst flow language
Piedmont: best flow language of the 3 WOs, bad schedules and only PHL is commutable
Envoy: bad schedules and good flow right now but it will decrease with time, best bases for commuting and 175 (if that's a consideration of yours)
Of the 2 options you've laid out I would go with Envoy IF you may be able to get the 145 in MIA. If not go with Piedmont.
In a nutshell:
PSA: best QOL of the 3 WOs, worst flow language
Piedmont: best flow language of the 3 WOs, bad schedules and only PHL is commutable
Envoy: bad schedules and good flow right now but it will decrease with time, best bases for commuting and 175 (if that's a consideration of yours)
Of the 2 options you've laid out I would go with Envoy IF you may be able to get the 145 in MIA. If not go with Piedmont.
08-14-2017, 02:15 PM
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08-17-2017, 08:09 PM
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Edit: just realized, maybe you're a troll.
Last edited by PRS Guitars; 08-17-2017 at 08:10 PM. Reason: Added comment
08-17-2017, 09:00 PM
#27
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I'm not well versed in the ENY flow and believe it's more intricate as it decreases as time continues, but was under the impression ENY and PDT flow times are predicted to be similar within a few months for a new applicant. It really shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone trying to decide between the two in my opinion.
08-20-2017, 12:06 PM
#28
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Position: DHC-8 CA
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If an Envoy or PSA pilot does not successfully complete training at AA, do they have flow back rights into their former position with seniority? Not trying to start a 'My flow is better than your flow' war, but i believe there to be a little bit of misinformation floating around on our side that one or both other WOs don't have that same protection as we do here at PDT.
I'm not well versed in the ENY flow and believe it's more intricate as it decreases as time continues, but was under the impression ENY and PDT flow times are predicted to be similar within a few months for a new applicant. It really shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone trying to decide between the two in my opinion.
I'm not well versed in the ENY flow and believe it's more intricate as it decreases as time continues, but was under the impression ENY and PDT flow times are predicted to be similar within a few months for a new applicant. It really shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone trying to decide between the two in my opinion.
08-20-2017, 03:49 PM
#29
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If an Envoy or PSA pilot does not successfully complete training at AA, do they have flow back rights into their former position with seniority? Not trying to start a 'My flow is better than your flow' war, but i believe there to be a little bit of misinformation floating around on our side that one or both other WOs don't have that same protection as we do here at PDT.
I'm not well versed in the ENY flow and believe it's more intricate as it decreases as time continues, but was under the impression ENY and PDT flow times are predicted to be similar within a few months for a new applicant. It really shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone trying to decide between the two in my opinion.
I'm not well versed in the ENY flow and believe it's more intricate as it decreases as time continues, but was under the impression ENY and PDT flow times are predicted to be similar within a few months for a new applicant. It really shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone trying to decide between the two in my opinion.
PSA pilots retain their seniority until after they complete training at AA.
08-31-2017, 06:56 AM
#30
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Nope. If you fail out of AA you do not get your seniority back at Envoy. If you fail out at AA then there is something wrong with you. We don't want you back. We got rid of a few crazies that way.
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