Can You Lose KCM For Yelling at a TSO?
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Can You Lose KCM For Yelling at a TSO?
My parents saw some airline employee go ape **** on a TSO for treating him like a passenger. Apparently they didn't have KCM and was yelling at the TSO that they shouldn't be treated like a passenger...
They said they over heard the employee tell the TSO "Once I get KCM you can't **** with me you ****". The TSO politely said "May I get your name and we shall see".
So is that dude now screwed over from ever using KCM? I swear some people leave their brains at home!!
They said they over heard the employee tell the TSO "Once I get KCM you can't **** with me you ****". The TSO politely said "May I get your name and we shall see".
So is that dude now screwed over from ever using KCM? I swear some people leave their brains at home!!
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My parents saw some airline employee go ape **** on a TSO for treating him like a passenger. Apparently they didn't have KCM and was yelling at the TSO that they shouldn't be treated like a passenger...
They said they over heard the employee tell the TSO "Once I get KCM you can't **** with me you ****". The TSO politely said "May I get your name and we shall see".
So is that dude now screwed over from ever using KCM? I swear some people leave their brains at home!!
They said they over heard the employee tell the TSO "Once I get KCM you can't **** with me you ****". The TSO politely said "May I get your name and we shall see".
So is that dude now screwed over from ever using KCM? I swear some people leave their brains at home!!
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I doubt the KCM system is configured to selectively ban people that certain smurfs don't like.
The law requires you to cooperate with them, and prevents you from assaulting them but you can probably still tell them what tools they are while you cooperate.
But airlines do not appreciate this sort of public behavior...that's where the trouble is likely to come from.
The law requires you to cooperate with them, and prevents you from assaulting them but you can probably still tell them what tools they are while you cooperate.
But airlines do not appreciate this sort of public behavior...that's where the trouble is likely to come from.
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I doubt the KCM system is configured to selectively ban people that certain smurfs don't like.
The law requires you to cooperate with them, and prevents you from assaulting them but you can probably still tell them what tools they are while you cooperate.
But airlines do not appreciate this sort of public behavior...that's where the trouble is likely to come from.
The law requires you to cooperate with them, and prevents you from assaulting them but you can probably still tell them what tools they are while you cooperate.
But airlines do not appreciate this sort of public behavior...that's where the trouble is likely to come from.
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I've had a couple body searches IN UNIFORM that were embarrassing. Last week they made me go through the X-ray machine...I was told it's a new policy. The JB FA caught with coke hasn't helped our situation.
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I got one coming back from sims a few weeks ago. Apparently saying you don't have KCM gets you the super extra treatment...
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You can be kicked out of KCM by your airline or by the Feds. It's happened to many pilots.
Please, for the love of everything holy, if you are selected for a pat down, demand a supervisor and a private room. TSA is out of control at certain airports and everyone knows it.
Please, for the love of everything holy, if you are selected for a pat down, demand a supervisor and a private room. TSA is out of control at certain airports and everyone knows it.
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You could do all manner of things to the smurfs-however, just remember, its a government run and sponsored program that also gets paid into by the airlines. KCM could go away. An instance like that is a surefire way to start a case for eliminating it. If the gooberment wants efficiency it frees up an officer from checking it.
No, it wasn't his tirade per say that did it...it was his tirade in public. If I am about to go off on a Smurf, I am going to do it behind closed doors where the public can't see it, and thereby spare myself, the agent, and the airline any sort of public embarrassment.
I am sure there are bad apples everywhere. TSA would be no exception, but the vast majority of them are hardworking American taxpayers just like you and me. Be polite, be professional, and just make it through. If you get randomed or have to go through the scanners, do it. Blowing up at them wont make things better or worse, and it certainly wont cause the elimination of the TSA at that very second.
Im sure hes going to get his KCM pulled. If he is a newhire, probably will get fired.
No, it wasn't his tirade per say that did it...it was his tirade in public. If I am about to go off on a Smurf, I am going to do it behind closed doors where the public can't see it, and thereby spare myself, the agent, and the airline any sort of public embarrassment.
I am sure there are bad apples everywhere. TSA would be no exception, but the vast majority of them are hardworking American taxpayers just like you and me. Be polite, be professional, and just make it through. If you get randomed or have to go through the scanners, do it. Blowing up at them wont make things better or worse, and it certainly wont cause the elimination of the TSA at that very second.
Im sure hes going to get his KCM pulled. If he is a newhire, probably will get fired.
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