9E "career progression" to DAL Coming Soon?
04-06-2017, 10:55 AM
#181
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I do get it. I think you should have a better career path, but knowing what I know, doubt you will get a flow. And I think it's petty to say no to any contract because you can't look sthuper cool in your fighter pilot jacket.
04-06-2017, 12:55 PM
#183
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I would hate to lose a contract item without some form of compensation, even if that item could be described as petty.
04-06-2017, 05:54 PM
#184
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Nothing against you, your opinion or viewpoint. I agree with your doubt without any support from the pilots that created the mess and ALPA National being biased. There are so many new pilots coming in that are unaware of how half or more of the industry was thrown under the bus for the other half personal gain. I could care less how cool I or someone looks what ever the uniform is. I would like us all to be on the same team and have a real union rather than a bunch of weak associations. How can we when there is so much benefit inequality? Why not have everyone get the same interview?
04-06-2017, 07:06 PM
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You don't think mainline pilots know this? They got to eat their crow the minute they let Pandora out of the box and still had pilots furloughed and downgrades and massive outsourcing. From a United(CAL) guy on my Jump, "when we agreed to allow 50 seat jets, we thought 20 maybe 30. The next day they bought 250 from Embraer."
So like I said, quit whining about what mainline DID and focus on what you can DO. Delta Pilots have resoundingly rejected regional scope relaxation. I know a few United pilots who would do the same. Yes, what happened sucked for a lot of people but sewing division amongst pilot groups will get all of us nowhere.
So like I said, quit whining about what mainline DID and focus on what you can DO. Delta Pilots have resoundingly rejected regional scope relaxation. I know a few United pilots who would do the same. Yes, what happened sucked for a lot of people but sewing division amongst pilot groups will get all of us nowhere.
04-07-2017, 02:30 AM
#187
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You just told a bunch of regional pilots to focus on what they can do to undo the damage mainline created and continues to facilitate. That takes some twisted logic. Maybe instead of patting yourself on the back for not allowing more RJs you should ask yourself what Delta Pilots have done to recapture scope. Unless I missed it I don't think Delta Pilots have made any attempt to recapture scope. Were there any negotiations on brining 76 seaters back to mainline in the last TA? That'd be a good place to start you know the dual class plane flying halfway across the country. Oh wait that would eat up precious capital used for other improvements. But by all means congratulations on not allowing any more.
Ive worked pretty hard at my Union at my regional to raise the bar.
04-07-2017, 03:25 AM
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04-07-2017, 04:21 AM
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If I were to guess, Delta pilots probably haven't been successful in rolling back scope for the same reason you haven't been and probably won't be successful rolling the bonus completely into your rates.
Ive worked pretty hard at my Union at my regional to raise the bar.
Ive worked pretty hard at my Union at my regional to raise the bar.
I'm not at Endeavor so I couldn't care any less if their bonus is rolled into payrates. At least that issue doesn't negatively impact the entire industry.
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