9E "career progression" to DAL Coming Soon?
04-02-2017, 11:03 AM
#161
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My experience reinforces my belief that Delta resists hiring 9E pilots OTS. Retired military, all fixed wing, fighters and transports, military instructor pilot, post-maintenance functional check pilot, CFI. Attended career fairs, letters of rec on file, app reviewed by checked and set. No failures or blemishes. Crickets. 9E is an excellent place to work, but if your goal is employment at Delta, I would go to an AA WO instead, even with a military background.
I don't regret coming to 9E because I think it's a good place to work, build quality recency of experience, and of course the pay is decent for a regional, but if I'd have thought for even a second that it would decrease my chances of getting called OTS by 1 of the 3 majors, then I probably would have pursued other options.
04-02-2017, 11:33 AM
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Your background looks very similar to mine. I have not heard anything either despite my experience and doing a lot of the same things to make my app stand out.
I don't regret coming to 9E because I think it's a good place to work, build quality recency of experience, and of course the pay is decent for a regional, but if I'd have thought for even a second that it would decrease my chances of getting called OTS by 1 of the 3 majors, then I probably would have pursued other options.
I don't regret coming to 9E because I think it's a good place to work, build quality recency of experience, and of course the pay is decent for a regional, but if I'd have thought for even a second that it would decrease my chances of getting called OTS by 1 of the 3 majors, then I probably would have pursued other options.
04-02-2017, 11:43 AM
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I would have considered other options as well. Either I wasn't alert to the possibility of this concept when entering the regional job market, or this is a new development with Delta (probably the former I suspect). Shame that with something as important as our careers, the system has to be gamed through guessing and jumping ship regional to regional. Go get some currency with a regional, they said. What they didn't say is that the mainline hiring process has become hyper-competitive and military experience is really only a silver bullet if you are a young recently separated mid or junior grade officer. For retirees, choose your regional wisely because it may be your last stop.
04-02-2017, 11:52 AM
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I would have considered other options as well. Either I wasn't alert to the possibility of this concept when entering the regional job market, or this is a new development with Delta (probably the former I suspect). Shame that with something as important as our careers, the system has to be gamed through guessing and jumping ship regional to regional. Go get some currency with a regional, they said. What they didn't say is that the mainline hiring process has become hyper-competitive and military experience is really only a silver bullet if you are a young recently separated mid or junior grade officer. For retirees, choose your regional wisely because it may be your last stop.
04-02-2017, 12:09 PM
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Sad to say, but you are right. So if there are any young (or "old") pilots ready to move to the next step in your career (regional), unless DAL/EDV change things quickly and get serious about career progression, you would be wise to apply at AA feeders w/ a flow. It's a multi million dollar guaranteed pay day right from the gate. No games, no silly job fairs, no over priced consulting firms, and no hoops to jump through. The road is free of obstacles; RJ FO to Wide body Captain. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. So choose wisely - your entire career depends on it...my 2 cents.
04-02-2017, 12:10 PM
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Sad to say, but you are right. So if there are any young (or "old") pilots ready to move to the next step in your career (regional), unless DAL/EDV change things quickly and get serious about career progression, you would be wise to apply at AA feeders w/ a flow. It's a multi million dollar guaranteed pay day right from the gate. No games, no silly job fairs, no over priced consulting firms, and no hoops to jump through. The road is free of obstacles; RJ FO to Wide body Captain. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. So choose wisely - your entire career depends on it...my 2 cents.
04-02-2017, 12:20 PM
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Always a possibility, but you have to make plans based on present facts, not on what might happen. Truth is, at present, all stats show an increase in demand for air travel combined with a very real looming pilot shortage. If I was a CFI trying to make my move to 121, I'd be doing everything I could to get onto an AA feeder. It's common sense. And a wise move in my opinion.
04-02-2017, 01:46 PM
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The 9E MEC is running out of time. They need to get this straightened out within 12 months. No reason this needs to be shelved (a real/legitimate pathway to DAL). Management and our union have a decent working and respectable relationship (finally) which could easily move this forward now that the HR and recruiting culture at DAL is changing. There are many in your boat waiting to pull the trigger for an AA feeder. It's really the only wise choice 9E pilots have at this point (unless they love vegas odds).
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