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Old 03-30-2017, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
It amazes me that the F word inspires so much emotion from a select group. It only took a few minutes from the initial post for you guys to start showing up? All I can say is wow. My memory tells me there was a lot more support/comraderie years ago throughout this industry. All I here now without anyone actually saying it is how special Delta is. Kinda like the Navy Seals. I wonder how American Airlines does it, and why we don't hear the same tone from their pilots? What a joke
Good post! I guess AA trusts their regional feed 🤔
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Old 03-30-2017, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
A staple:
You don't understand this industry or you're new.
A B scale:
You don't understand history or you're new.
If any regional carrier does not meet the performance in their contract with the legacy carriers, it is void.

I.e. Not being able to pilot staff their flights.

I have no idea how this will play out, but I hope 100% of the regional flying comes to mainline with all the regional pilots.
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Old 03-30-2017, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
It amazes me that the F word inspires so much emotion from a select group. It only took a few minutes from the initial post for you guys to start showing up? All I can say is wow. My memory tells me there was a lot more support/comraderie years ago throughout this industry. All I here now without anyone actually saying it is how special Delta is. Kinda like the Navy Seals. I wonder how American Airlines does it, and why we don't hear the same tone from their pilots? What a joke
I don't care if Endeavor gets a flow. Being a wholly owned, I'm surprised they don't. I'm just basing my opinion off things you hear from recruiters and history. And I'm not even saying they aren't ever going to get one. They very well could especially with the AA flows. I'm just saying that the OP saying a staple makes the most sense is ridiculous and borderline delusional.
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver
Landscape is changing quickly. Shortage will change the game. Never say never. Over the last 2 years, endeavor has been on a slow march to mirrior everything Delta, and it hasn't been a request.
That is ASA exactly a few years ago. All of our ops was Delta duplicated.
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Old 03-30-2017, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
That is ASA exactly a few years ago. All of our ops was Delta duplicated.

Comair was the same way. Did our online training on the DeltaNet LMS sight, similar manuals, etc etc etc. It's just that it's the first time the 9E guys have seen it so they think it's unique to them.
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30
Comair was the same way. Did our online training on the DeltaNet LMS sight, similar manuals, etc etc etc. It's just that it's the first time the 9E guys have seen it so they think it's unique to them.
Doesn't matter how many times this gets said, 9E guys don't want to hear it.

The matching up with Delta is a Guum thing. ASA thing i didn't know about.
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Old 03-30-2017, 05:44 PM
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Manuals alignment was a BW thing, not RG.
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Old 03-30-2017, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
Manuals alignment was a BW thing, not RG.
RG pushed for it while running comair. I think that shows he's behind the move here since we've continued to go that way.

BW may have been stupid enough to think all Delta procedures would work seamlessly in a stone age RJ with no autothrottles nor VNAV.
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Old 03-31-2017, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
If any regional carrier does not meet the performance in their contract with the legacy carriers, it is void.

I.e. Not being able to pilot staff their flights.

I have no idea how this will play out, but I hope 100% of the regional flying comes to mainline with all the regional pilots.
We are in a race against technology, it's likely the status quo is maintained until we are all outsourced via flag of convenience, and machine learning automation.
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Old 03-31-2017, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
We are in a race against technology, it's likely the status quo is maintained until we are all outsourced via flag of convenience, and machine learning automation.
This is closer to the truth than one might think and the turning point approaches fast when machines will be able to fly aircraft intelligently. They never become fatigued, sick or lose concentration; are not susceptible to visual and vestibular illusions; they follow directions much better and more efficiently than humans. Just a matter of them gaining artificial intelligence and that day will come upon us in fifty years.
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