AboveMins

I wouldn't hang my hat on the UAL CPP. It's a joke. Go somewhere with a flow agreement instead.

Student01

My point exactly. So someone is gonna get the CPP. SkyWest or Mesa. I bet SkyWest. Only problem is...you can't fly for SkyWest and only support United Express operations like you can at ExpressJet.
The way I see it...if I wanna go to United mainline...why would I wanna fly E-Jets for Delta Connection and Alaska Airlines? I want to familiarize myself with United Ops. They should be able to request United...E-Jet...DEN, IAH, etc.

We all (as of now) don't see Mesa making it sadly. But if it is a good company ever...watch out...E-Jet...IAH...UAX only...pilots will come and I'll be one.

I don't understand why CommutAir needs ERJs or the CPP but that's my opinion. I wouldn't wanna go to CommutAir just for ERJs or for the CPP.

Side note...please don't hate on me. I'm flying and getting setup with a college. I'm informing myself. Thank you for everyone that helps make me smarter on these and other topics.

John Carr

Pilots hired at UAL from the civ/RJ background come from all different Express/Connection paint jobs. UAL doesn't care. Being familiar with a certain carrier's ops MEANS NOTHING.

Commutair is a business, and a business needs to adapt/grow to make money and thrive. Especially in a competitive market place.

1) They were flying planes that UAL isn't interested in keeping around
2) Someone has to provide the 50 lift for CHEAPER than L-XJT can. At least as far as a bean counter/10K/quarterly/line item cost metric is concerned. Take the planes from XJT and give then to TransStates/Commutair.
3) "The fifty seater is dead!!!!!" Battle/rally cry of the ignorant/uniformed. It will ALWAYS have it's place, just not in the numbers of the post 9/11 scope relaxation era. UAL still sees a need for that equipment gage/capability.

The CPP is NOTHING more than a carrot dangled to retain pilots/attract new pilots to a company that sucks and has little to no future and doesn't offer much to a pilot trying to advance their career.

So you're right, don't bother going to a UAX carrier for a CPP program under the current circumstances, it's as mentioned, A JOKE.

Even if the entire bottom half of the XJT seniority list is able to interview and get "accepted" into the program, few if any will probably make it to UAL via the CPP. And just to give you an idea, ~50% on the seniority list at ERJ/XJT is a fall 2006 hire.

As mentioned, ExpressJet (legacy side) never would/will fly anything other than an ERJ. SkyWest holdings Corp has made sure of that.

As mentioned, I don't believe UAL has a plan for L-XJt to exist past Q1 2019 and neither does SKW holdings.

zondaracer

Rumor has it that United went to SkyWest first and offered a flow through/preferential interview and SkyWest turned it down. I don't know if that's true or not, but people mention it and said they heard it straight from CC's mouth.

United wants their regional feed to be staffed. Regionals want their flying to be staffed. Offering jets, growth, and a flow through/CPP/SSP are incentives to bring pilots to the company. The people who choose Commutair have their reasons. It's not one size fits all. I think my regional is great, but for someone else, they may have a better choice.

Also, I enjoy flying for different carriers. I flew for Delta Connection, United Express, and American Eagle all in the same month. I'm now familiar with ops for three different carriers. Honestly, it's not so different that I can't learn the differences. I mean the biggest difference is I have to wear a yellow vest for American during my walk around. Plus, since I'm not at a wholly owned and I don't get the same boarding priority as mainline, having access to multiple travel partners for my non-rev bonus helps give me options to get to where I want to go. I actually view it as a plus to fly for multiple mainline partners.

N1234

That is not true.

zondaracer

That would be my guess. Thanks