Whatever Happened To That Pilot Shortage?
08-30-2017, 07:30 AM
#101
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Which carriers are hiring 23 year olds over 30 or 40 year olds? Is it just Delta? American seems to prefer older, high-time regional jet captains. From a stand-point of labor costs, it would be more beneficial for an airline to hire older pilots since they will stay at the top of the payscale for less time and do essentially the same amount of work as a younger pilot.
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08-30-2017, 09:36 AM
#102
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Sitting at the top of a payscale for 20+ years costs alot more than a couple type ratings and a few months in the school house. Older pilots are cheaper.
08-30-2017, 08:30 PM
#104
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More proof: saw in another thread that PSA has raised the rotor mins to 1000 hours before entering RTP, due to the overwhelming number of applicants.
08-31-2017, 01:15 PM
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For this to work, the reporting period must be the same for all participants. Its not enough to say psa went from 500 to 1300 in the last 4 years, we need to see if other airline(s) lost the 800 pilots or not or how much of those 800 are new pilots.
08-31-2017, 01:17 PM
#106
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But on the flip-side, it sounds like Skywest and Express Jet will hire you and now accept your current longevity from your current airline and pay you that longevity pay rate, including other benefits based on longevity.
08-31-2017, 01:25 PM
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08-31-2017, 01:43 PM
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So in spite of all the pilots that don't have a flow talking about how bad it is, the people on the street realize it for the gem that it is, and all The WO's are flooded with applicants.
08-31-2017, 05:47 PM
#109
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Yeah, I don't have a flow at my regional and it sucks honestly. I've flown with captains at SkyWest that would have been at Delta if they had gone to Compass or at American if they had stayed at Eagle, but instead they're still stuck flying the Canadian Space Shuttle and proclaiming how much they wish they could get out of this sinking ship.
08-31-2017, 06:29 PM
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Yeah, I don't have a flow at my regional and it sucks honestly. I've flown with captains at SkyWest that would have been at Delta if they had gone to Compass or at American if they had stayed at Eagle, but instead they're still stuck flying the Canadian Space Shuttle and proclaiming how much they wish they could get out of this sinking ship.
But when they signed up at SKW, Compass didn't exist.
When CZ was created it was owned by NWA, so you had flow to a MSP-centric major.
The AA flow from eagle was dead-in-the-water back then (maybe cancelled outright? I can't recall).
Flow was crap back then, definitely a bird in the bush.
Hindsight is 20/20...I should have taken that job at CAL in 2006
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