Whatever Happened To That Pilot Shortage?
08-29-2017, 10:30 AM
#92
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There is probably an easier answer to this question where a true picture can be seen in very short order.
If one person from each regional airline who has kept their older seniority lists can post the total number of pilots on their roster for August of 2017 and August of 2016, that might show the trend.
If one person from each regional airline who has kept their older seniority lists can post the total number of pilots on their roster for August of 2017 and August of 2016, that might show the trend.
My personal observation over the almost three years I've been here, there's been a lot of turnover of FOs, and the top maybe 30% of the seniority list hasn't had much movement. Of the senior guys there's been an occassional checkairman move up to delta/ FedEx/etc, and a few retirements. Of the people getting on at majors, it seems to be newer captains and some senior FOs that have been lucky enough to get the call. Then in the bottom part of the seniority list, there seems to be a lot of people going to LLCs and playing the regional shuffle.
08-29-2017, 10:37 AM
#94
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I think the hard part with those "computational algorithms" is that it punishes guys who were stuck in the lost decade and at the wrong airline. Did you get hired at a regional, upgrade and then get downgraded keeping you as an FO for 7 years? Well, I guess you were too lazy. The lost decade has and continues to punish people based solely on timing. Yes, it does "look bad" to have quite a few flight school failures in college and then spend 6 years in the right seat. If you are a LCA and union volunteer, and a captain, majors should be knocking on the door over 24 year olds with a few years of experience and good connections. Such is the world.
08-29-2017, 02:04 PM
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Agreed. So many people got stuck in place at no fault to their own. Yet Delta and others seem to love the 24-26 year olds who graduated into this unprecedented hiring spree, thus have been really lucky with timing and, esecially, those who just happened to pick regionals with good movement for quick upgrade. I remember the Delta hiring brief at WIA this year where they mentioned they were so 'impressed' by all the qualifications their 23 and 24 year old new hires had obtained at such a young age.
08-30-2017, 04:31 AM
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Agreed. So many people got stuck in place at no fault to their own. Yet Delta and others seem to love the 24-26 year olds who graduated into this unprecedented hiring spree, thus have been really lucky with timing and, esecially, those who just happened to pick regionals with good movement for quick upgrade. I remember the Delta hiring brief at WIA this year where they mentioned they were so 'impressed' by all the qualifications their 23 and 24 year old new hires had obtained at such a young age.
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