Minimum guarantee?
02-15-2017, 08:02 PM
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Minimum guarantee?
So i keep seeing airlines saying that they have a monthly guarantee of 85,75, or whatever amount of credit hours per month. However, that equates to over 1000 hours per year. I thought part 121 you can only fly a maximum of 1000 hours per year?
02-15-2017, 08:06 PM
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What you get paid and what you actually fly are two different things. It's all in the contract (or lack thereof).
02-15-2017, 08:12 PM
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02-15-2017, 08:27 PM
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There are quite a few ways in which you can get paid more hours than you fly. It's called "soft pay". Different airlines have different ways of doing it. As a result, very few pilots end up with the legal maximum of flight time even though their pay credits are higher.
02-15-2017, 08:32 PM
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You have to fly as much as they tell you to. You will get paid at least 75 hours, regardless of how much you actually fly. Many majors have a max monthly credit (unless you volunteer for more) but few or zero regionals have a max.
Credit and block are not the same. The FAR 117 limits apply to block, not credit. So activities like training and deadhead will pay credit but are not block.
Also trip rigs specify that for a certain amount of time away from base, and on duty daily, you will get paid a certain amount regardless of how much you actually fly.
All airlines *should* pay you for cancelled flights...if you you stumble on one which doesn't, run away fast.
02-15-2017, 08:33 PM
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It totally depends on company work rules, base, seniority, how they build the trips, etc. At my company, they have a minimum daily guarantee of 4:12. So if you do a two day trip, for example, where the first day you fly just one hour and the second day you fly 5 hours, you will get 4:12 pay for day one and 5 hours of pay for day 2, to simplify things. We also get paid for deadheads, which is when you ride in the back of a plane when they need to reposition the crew. We get paid for training, and holidays, and other things and it's all in the work rules. Every airline has their pay rules which vary from company to company. So just looking at the hourly pay rate is only one part of the equation.
02-16-2017, 02:23 AM
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For every 100 hours that I fly, I expect to get paid just over 130. That has been my running average for the last 3 years.
The extra 30 hours comes from vacation, under-blocking, cancellation pay, displacement pay, training pay, dead heads, sick time, and scheduled day off/critical pay.
The extra 30 hours comes from vacation, under-blocking, cancellation pay, displacement pay, training pay, dead heads, sick time, and scheduled day off/critical pay.
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