Washed Out Of PSA
12-05-2014, 09:50 AM
#31
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A prop is not necessarily easier because it is slower. V1 cuts in a prop are more difficult in my opinion for example.
Instead of starting over, your best bet is to build upon what you already have. Definitely take the sim course. But prior to that, make sure you know the systems, and flows and procedures solid. If you are having trouble with instruments, something as simple as a pc based flight sim can help you with that. Infact the purchased version of the CRJ is pretty good when it comes to the using the navigation and flight automation stuff. Spend a month doing that, then go back and knock it out at PSA.
As for if it's going to be on your PRIA, don't worry about it too much right now. It's going to be a couple years before you have the time to go anywhere anyway. This works in your favor because you will put distance between you and the failures, as well as add multiple successful checkrides to your resume. When you do go back and pass training, have some sort of plan for continuing your education. What I mean by that is, don't wait until 2 weeks before recurrent to have a cram session. Make a diagram of each systems, right notes on them, and review one or two systems each trip while you are sitting there doing nothing in cruise. Of course find time to review your GOM and memory items as well. You are going to want to nail each checkride, and especially that captain upgrade, in order to have a good shot at explaining away two initial failures.
Instead of starting over, your best bet is to build upon what you already have. Definitely take the sim course. But prior to that, make sure you know the systems, and flows and procedures solid. If you are having trouble with instruments, something as simple as a pc based flight sim can help you with that. Infact the purchased version of the CRJ is pretty good when it comes to the using the navigation and flight automation stuff. Spend a month doing that, then go back and knock it out at PSA.
As for if it's going to be on your PRIA, don't worry about it too much right now. It's going to be a couple years before you have the time to go anywhere anyway. This works in your favor because you will put distance between you and the failures, as well as add multiple successful checkrides to your resume. When you do go back and pass training, have some sort of plan for continuing your education. What I mean by that is, don't wait until 2 weeks before recurrent to have a cram session. Make a diagram of each systems, right notes on them, and review one or two systems each trip while you are sitting there doing nothing in cruise. Of course find time to review your GOM and memory items as well. You are going to want to nail each checkride, and especially that captain upgrade, in order to have a good shot at explaining away two initial failures.
12-05-2014, 09:51 AM
#32
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They are. Most people on here have never actually seen a real PRIA report. For various liability reasons there isn't detail contained in them. All it lists is the date, type of event (GS, LOFT, PC , etc) and whether it was satisfactory or unsat. That's it. No details. No IP comments etc.
12-05-2014, 09:51 AM
#33
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With 2 failures and your biggest concern is how to dodge the HR questions, your not going to have to worry about what's on your records or not!!! That should be the least of your concerns. You need to figure out how to pass training before you worry about an interview. That's putting the cart before the horse!!!
12-05-2014, 09:52 AM
#34
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I remember reading your posts in March this year, Didn't you have an issue at XJet a few months ago....???
I am sorry to hear about your misfortunes but I have a question for you.... Why did you go to PSA or your 2nd airline without doing the Crj course & making sure you can do it...
Pls understand that I am not trying to say this in any negative sense or trying to demean or insult you in any way at all. Just that I am both surprised & frustrated & sorry for your situation, all at the same time.
When I read your posts in March, I told myself that I want to avoid that situation & that is why I did the CRJ course.
Reading your thread back then, saved me.....
I am sorry that you are in this soup, I wish there was anything I could do to help you.
I wish you good luck in your future endeavors.
12-05-2014, 09:53 AM
#35
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Some pilots will never have failed a checkride but will have DUI's, traffic tickets, misdemeanors convictions that they will have to fess up to.
The other thing to consider is you very well might make it through training on your next attempt, but will you make it through your checkride and IOE etc.. Hard to say as we do not know where you are struggling or what your past experience is.
12-05-2014, 09:54 AM
#36
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You did fail, you FAILED to complete it.
12-05-2014, 09:58 AM
#37
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I see two problems here. One is that some applications ask you if you've ever been asked to resign by an employer. They may also ask if you've ever failed to complete a part 121 training program/event.
But bottom line, you have spent a short amount of time at two airlines (and i'm certainly not one to judge that), and employers are probably going to want to know why it was so brief. You may be able to tell them it was for personal reasons, or even that you didn't fail a training event. But if they get a copy of your training records from PSA, which I believe they will through PRIA, those may have instructor notes on there, documenting the problems you were having with training. Then you'd look dishonest.
But bottom line, you have spent a short amount of time at two airlines (and i'm certainly not one to judge that), and employers are probably going to want to know why it was so brief. You may be able to tell them it was for personal reasons, or even that you didn't fail a training event. But if they get a copy of your training records from PSA, which I believe they will through PRIA, those may have instructor notes on there, documenting the problems you were having with training. Then you'd look dishonest.
12-05-2014, 10:00 AM
#39
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I see two problems here. One is that some applications ask you if you've ever been asked to resign by an employer. They may also ask if you've ever failed to complete a part 121 training program/event.
But bottom line, you have spent a short amount of time at two airlines (and i'm certainly not one to judge that), and employers are probably going to want to know why it was so brief. You may be able to tell them it was for personal reasons, or even that you didn't fail a training event. But if they get a copy of your training records from PSA, which I believe they will through PRIA, those may have instructor notes on there, documenting the problems you were having with training. Then you'd look dishonest.
But bottom line, you have spent a short amount of time at two airlines (and i'm certainly not one to judge that), and employers are probably going to want to know why it was so brief. You may be able to tell them it was for personal reasons, or even that you didn't fail a training event. But if they get a copy of your training records from PSA, which I believe they will through PRIA, those may have instructor notes on there, documenting the problems you were having with training. Then you'd look dishonest.
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