Washed Out Of PSA
#21
Yeah turboprops are pretty busy airplanes and the other thing is, do you really have $5k to toss into ring for a one week CRJ course? What is PSA's answer to the question "how many of your previous rejects got to the line after they took that CRJ course you want me to take"? Your best bet is to get a 135 job and try airlines after a year or two. It will be much easier for you then.
#23
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With 2 training failures at the beginning of your career, it would be best to figure out what the issue is before you add a 3rd failure…
#25
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I've never failed a Checkride or training event but I know my PRIA records from my last 121job to this one only list training I have received and the dates no details and Definately no notes or sim records of anytype.
You can request your own PRIA records which I would highly recommend doing.
But I also would not encourage being dishonest about anything.
What was your background to fail 2 121 classes?
You can request your own PRIA records which I would highly recommend doing.
But I also would not encourage being dishonest about anything.
What was your background to fail 2 121 classes?
#26
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Position: MD80 Captain
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With all due respect to the OP.... Unless you can figure out where your weaknesses are and correct them (doubtful as this is your second 121 initial bust), you should consider a new line of work.
Again, no disrespect but do you really want to be responsible for the loss of life that may occur from your lack of abilities?
Flying airplanes for a living isn't for everyone.
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Again, no disrespect but do you really want to be responsible for the loss of life that may occur from your lack of abilities?
Flying airplanes for a living isn't for everyone.
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#27
Washing out of one 121 initial could be a fluke, washing out of two is a trend...especially when the cause of both is poor instrument skills and/or being behind the plane.
I would agree that a 135 job would be a logical step at this point...something like Cape Air, Air Cargo Carriers, Mountain Air, Ameriflight, or the like. Not that any of those would be "easy", but at this point it sounds to me like the speed of a swept wing jet is causing major trouble and a twin piston or turboprop could be the ticket to successful transitioning.
I would agree that a 135 job would be a logical step at this point...something like Cape Air, Air Cargo Carriers, Mountain Air, Ameriflight, or the like. Not that any of those would be "easy", but at this point it sounds to me like the speed of a swept wing jet is causing major trouble and a twin piston or turboprop could be the ticket to successful transitioning.
#28
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been terminated or asked to leave a flying job"
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A prop is not necessarily easier because it is slower. V1 cuts in a prop are more difficult in my opinion for example.
Instead of starting over, your best bet is to build upon what you already have. Definitely take the sim course. But prior to that, make sure you know the systems, and flows and procedures solid. If you are having trouble with instruments, something as simple as a pc based flight sim can help you with that. Infact the purchased version of the CRJ is pretty good when it comes to the using the navigation and flight automation stuff. Spend a month doing that, then go back and knock it out at PSA.
As for if it's going to be on your PRIA, don't worry about it too much right now. It's going to be a couple years before you have the time to go anywhere anyway. This works in your favor because you will put distance between you and the failures, as well as add multiple successful checkrides to your resume. When you do go back and pass training, have some sort of plan for continuing your education. What I mean by that is, don't wait until 2 weeks before recurrent to have a cram session. Make a diagram of each systems, right notes on them, and review one or two systems each trip while you are sitting there doing nothing in cruise. Of course find time to review your GOM and memory items as well. You are going to want to nail each checkride, and especially that captain upgrade, in order to have a good shot at explaining away two initial failures.
Instead of starting over, your best bet is to build upon what you already have. Definitely take the sim course. But prior to that, make sure you know the systems, and flows and procedures solid. If you are having trouble with instruments, something as simple as a pc based flight sim can help you with that. Infact the purchased version of the CRJ is pretty good when it comes to the using the navigation and flight automation stuff. Spend a month doing that, then go back and knock it out at PSA.
As for if it's going to be on your PRIA, don't worry about it too much right now. It's going to be a couple years before you have the time to go anywhere anyway. This works in your favor because you will put distance between you and the failures, as well as add multiple successful checkrides to your resume. When you do go back and pass training, have some sort of plan for continuing your education. What I mean by that is, don't wait until 2 weeks before recurrent to have a cram session. Make a diagram of each systems, right notes on them, and review one or two systems each trip while you are sitting there doing nothing in cruise. Of course find time to review your GOM and memory items as well. You are going to want to nail each checkride, and especially that captain upgrade, in order to have a good shot at explaining away two initial failures.
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