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Old 12-05-2014, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MrObvious
If you can't handle a crj you're gonna get your a$$ handed to you in a dash, not very good advice my friend.
Yeah turboprops are pretty busy airplanes and the other thing is, do you really have $5k to toss into ring for a one week CRJ course? What is PSA's answer to the question "how many of your previous rejects got to the line after they took that CRJ course you want me to take"? Your best bet is to get a 135 job and try airlines after a year or two. It will be much easier for you then.
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
So..... lie, then go fly a turboprop that is possibly more difficult to fly than a CRJ.

Solid advice.
You mean like a 1900?
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:42 AM
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With 2 training failures at the beginning of your career, it would be best to figure out what the issue is before you add a 3rd failure…
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AluminumFoil
That is terrible advice, report everything.
Absolutely not. If there is nothing on your record because the employer chose not to report it because they didn't consider it a failure, then there is nothing to report.
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:44 AM
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I've never failed a Checkride or training event but I know my PRIA records from my last 121job to this one only list training I have received and the dates no details and Definately no notes or sim records of anytype.

You can request your own PRIA records which I would highly recommend doing.
But I also would not encourage being dishonest about anything.

What was your background to fail 2 121 classes?
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:45 AM
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With all due respect to the OP.... Unless you can figure out where your weaknesses are and correct them (doubtful as this is your second 121 initial bust), you should consider a new line of work.

Again, no disrespect but do you really want to be responsible for the loss of life that may occur from your lack of abilities?

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Old 12-05-2014, 09:45 AM
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Washing out of one 121 initial could be a fluke, washing out of two is a trend...especially when the cause of both is poor instrument skills and/or being behind the plane.

I would agree that a 135 job would be a logical step at this point...something like Cape Air, Air Cargo Carriers, Mountain Air, Ameriflight, or the like. Not that any of those would be "easy", but at this point it sounds to me like the speed of a swept wing jet is causing major trouble and a twin piston or turboprop could be the ticket to successful transitioning.
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:46 AM
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been terminated or asked to leave a flying job"
If you resign on your own terms, how will HR of another airline asked you vs being told to resign in leui of termination?
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:47 AM
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He could haul checks or something, its not like pro flying is only working for the airlines.
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Old 12-05-2014, 09:48 AM
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A prop is not necessarily easier because it is slower. V1 cuts in a prop are more difficult in my opinion for example.
Instead of starting over, your best bet is to build upon what you already have. Definitely take the sim course. But prior to that, make sure you know the systems, and flows and procedures solid. If you are having trouble with instruments, something as simple as a pc based flight sim can help you with that. Infact the purchased version of the CRJ is pretty good when it comes to the using the navigation and flight automation stuff. Spend a month doing that, then go back and knock it out at PSA.

As for if it's going to be on your PRIA, don't worry about it too much right now. It's going to be a couple years before you have the time to go anywhere anyway. This works in your favor because you will put distance between you and the failures, as well as add multiple successful checkrides to your resume. When you do go back and pass training, have some sort of plan for continuing your education. What I mean by that is, don't wait until 2 weeks before recurrent to have a cram session. Make a diagram of each systems, right notes on them, and review one or two systems each trip while you are sitting there doing nothing in cruise. Of course find time to review your GOM and memory items as well. You are going to want to nail each checkride, and especially that captain upgrade, in order to have a good shot at explaining away two initial failures.
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