PSA Hiring
07-18-2014, 05:05 PM
#41
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an intelligent person that takes a step back and looks at the big picture, thinks logically and realizes that the greater good of pilots in general/health of the industry is much more important than shortening your own upgrade time. I would bet that very few, if any, of the PSA guys that voted yes thought any further than how taking voluntary concessions for growth would affect upgrade time at PSA. Did any of them think about how continuing to feed the majors' addiction to "cheap feed" would affect majors' hiring/growth? Or how their vote would affect their peers' career progression and even those pilots to come behind them? I highly doubt it. They saw the opportunity to upgrade soon and took it without thinking or caring that they were selling out thousands of their peers. So, like I said... you're selfish! and I hope it bites you in the a$$ later
07-18-2014, 05:34 PM
#42
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Reminds me of the time that I was strongly against Pay for training.
Well it worked for so many people. Lots of people I know moved on and had much better paying jobs earlier because they paid for either a type or hours.
Was it wrong? Maybe the big picture PFT is. But it paid off fir thousands of pilots.
Well it worked for so many people. Lots of people I know moved on and had much better paying jobs earlier because they paid for either a type or hours.
Was it wrong? Maybe the big picture PFT is. But it paid off fir thousands of pilots.
07-18-2014, 05:39 PM
#44
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Yeah like... Xjt... Republic... And Eagle... How is that rock you live under?
07-18-2014, 05:40 PM
#45
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If anyone can answer the following about PSA, I'd much appreciate it.
Are there trip rigs? If so what are they?
What is per diem?
What is the vacation scale?
Is there sick leave on top of vacation or none at all or all together??
How much is single/family coverage health insurance?
Is there cancellation pay for MX &/or WX?
Is there deadhead pay?
Is there premium pay for any flying?
What kind of 401k matching / retirement options are there?
Are the pay tables correct on airlinepilotcentral.com?
Is there trip touching pay for time off taken?
Does the contract have a commuter clause? If so, how many backups do you have to plan to invoke it? Is there a limit on how many times a year you can use it?
Does PSA provide hotel rooms for the night before/after early/late duty on/offs? (I saw where some company does this, but don't remember who it was)
Is there anything else about the contract that's especially good or bad or noteworthy?
I know some of this info is available in past posts, but if anyone who already knows can answer off the top of their head, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
Are there trip rigs? If so what are they?
What is per diem?
What is the vacation scale?
Is there sick leave on top of vacation or none at all or all together??
How much is single/family coverage health insurance?
Is there cancellation pay for MX &/or WX?
Is there deadhead pay?
Is there premium pay for any flying?
What kind of 401k matching / retirement options are there?
Are the pay tables correct on airlinepilotcentral.com?
Is there trip touching pay for time off taken?
Does the contract have a commuter clause? If so, how many backups do you have to plan to invoke it? Is there a limit on how many times a year you can use it?
Does PSA provide hotel rooms for the night before/after early/late duty on/offs? (I saw where some company does this, but don't remember who it was)
Is there anything else about the contract that's especially good or bad or noteworthy?
I know some of this info is available in past posts, but if anyone who already knows can answer off the top of their head, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
07-18-2014, 05:50 PM
#46
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http://youtu.be/aqAUmgE3WyM
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07-18-2014, 06:15 PM
#47
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You can google the contract and answer all your questions. Or call me and I will help you
07-18-2014, 06:33 PM
#48
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I disagree. I'm at another regional now. Yes, all regionals are suck-fests, but some are better than others. PSA is way at the bottom of the list. I'll give credit where credit is due- yes, mx was pretty good. Yes, the training department was pretty good. That's it. Scheduling sucked, dispatch sucked, management sucked (including pilot support management), a lot of the flying we did sucked. While I did say mx was pretty good, I frequently had an APU deferred in the middle of the summer. Sucks. In a -200? Sucks REAL bad. The hotels were hit or miss. It's not just about pay.
07-18-2014, 07:12 PM
#50
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I have been in the industry since 1994. WE at Comair went on strike back in 2001 for 89 days to get a decent contract. It was industry leading. Chautauqua agreed to a contract a few months later that under cut our gains. 9-11 did have an impact on that I will concede. But my point is all pilot groups since then have had to deal with the main lines pay to play scheme. It started many years before the PSA pilots agreed to their contract. Many. many years. So when you say we have "ruined it' for every one else think back to what may of been if Chautauqua, then Eagle and the rest had been able to attain Comair plus 1%.
Comair plus 1% right after 9-11? How realistic is that??
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