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Old 07-30-2018, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by texinc
Have you had the forced upgrade yet, and the forced voluntary domicile move?
Should be this bid, I would have already been but 14 line displacements for training so far this year has kept me under 1000 121 time
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Old 07-31-2018, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
Should be this bid, I would have already been but 14 line displacements for training so far this year has kept me under 1000 121 time
Funny how the consequence of staffing the airline through senior manning has discouraged FOs from flying to attain 1000 hours in order to avoid the QOL consequences associated with the policy.
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Originally Posted by Dubz
Funny how the consequence of staffing the airline through senior manning has discouraged FOs from flying to attain 1000 hours in order to avoid the QOL consequences associated with the policy.
That's the funny thing I was trying to get my 1000 as fast as possible lol
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Old 08-01-2018, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubz
Funny how the consequence of staffing the airline through senior manning has discouraged FOs from flying to attain 1000 hours in order to avoid the QOL consequences associated with the policy.
I wonder how many FOs are dropping down to 65 vs a year ago.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:45 AM
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I know a few. With so much of the compensation structure for First Officers tilted towards bonuses, it simply doesn't cost that much to drop 15-20 hours a month. One's hourly rate actually increases the less one flies, given the bonuses are paid regardless of credit hours earned.
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Originally Posted by 272922
I wonder how many FOs are dropping down to 65 vs a year ago.
What's that tell you? Captain upgrade is considered punishment as opposed to advancement and reward here at PSA. At least 4-6 senior pilots are forced to upgrade with each CA announcement, not sure how many bid the position just to avoid the forced displacement out of base. Yes, there are those that genuinely want the upgrade too, but speaks volumes to our horrible reserve rules, and lack of financial incentive.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:51 AM
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With so much of the compensation structure for First Officers tilted towards bonuses, it simply doesn't cost that much to drop 15-20 hours a month. One's hourly rate actually increases the less one flies, given the bonuses are paid regardless of credit hours earned.
Bingo...but what does the company think? They would like to limit the hours that you can drop, not increase pay.

But this problem has been of their own making. If the rates were higher across the board, and the bonuses were lower, they'd get a lot more people willing to pick up more time.
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird

Captain upgrade is considered punishment as opposed to advancement and reward here at PSA. At least 4-6 senior pilots are forced to upgrade with each CA announcement, not sure how many bid the position just to avoid the forced displacement out of base. Yes, there are those that genuinely want the upgrade too, but speaks volumes to our horrible reserve rules, and lack of financial incentive.
This deserves to be quoted, underlined, and bolded...Very well put.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly
Bingo...but what does the company think? They would like to limit the hours that you can drop, not increase pay.

But this problem has been of their own making. If the rates were higher across the board, and the bonuses were lower, they'd get a lot more people willing to pick up more time.
Not to mention if we had a better min day and 150% SDO pay like almost every one else I guarantee you a lot more people would pick up flying and most likely reduce the amount of reserves needed.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:59 AM
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I know a few. With so much of the compensation structure for First Officers tilted towards bonuses, it simply doesn't cost that much to drop 15-20 hours a month. One's hourly rate actually increases the less one flies, given the bonuses are paid regardless of credit hours earned.
That's exactly how to play the game right now at PSA if you're a FO and aren't in a hurry to log hrs. Keep your base, get paid 75hrs guarantee, bank bonus, and update apps with majors.

Avg pay rate magically doesn't look so horrible
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