Thedude86

Still not really sure what youre asking. If youre referring to a request you have right now... we are currently in seniority based trading. You can’t actively swap trips like during SAP. You put in whatever requests you desire. It started on the 24th and your trades will not be processed until it closes today at 5pm. Then tomorrow at 5pm first come first serve trading opens and then you can actively swap trips just like during SAP except it will be dependent on the reserve grid.

If youre referring to SAP in general then yes, its been getting slower and slower every month. This month wasn’t as bad (but still pretty slow) most likely because a lot of people kept their flying due to the holiday pay. I would assume December will be similar, and then we’ll most likely be back to 6-8 hour processing times for January.

Irishblackbird

[QUOTE=272922;2697464]Rumor has it that MaCrOs doesn't work here anymore, so The Tall One posted something on the now official ALPA forum. I guess ALPA peeps can't post here any more though.



Anyone know where MaCrOs went?

captande

[QUOTE=Irishblackbird;2698770]New job I believe

Urban achiever

I’m not singling you out in any way, however many of the first officers I fly with have no clue how flica works or how sdo/ccp pay works (including seniority based or first come first served).

As for your seniority based bids, the company has until fcfs opens to process the requests since it’s all based on seniority and there’s a 3 day window to bid. It wasn’t until I flew with a captain that showed me how to get 120+ hrs from ccp pay and still have 16+ days off in a month that I figured out the flica inner workings.

This lack of experience and knowledge is due to a basically all new pilot group that just doesn’t know yet and there is no training for it. Kind of like when you’re in school, no one teaches you about taxes... you just figure it out. Kind of the same thing here.

So it would behoove all of you to ask your captains who have been here longer... and captains it would be great to teach the newer guys how to sap... how to strategize your round 1 initial bid in preparation for the sap so we’re not all just *****ing “ughhhh this thing sucks, pending for 8 hours”. Yes it’s slow and no where near real time but when I started 2.5 years ago it wasn’t being bogged down with garbage trades that have zero chance of going through like it has lately.

captande

No one factors in how when people submit 15 requests to drop one trip, it’ll effect the system.

Urban achiever

Or how they’re trying to drop 4 trips at once to pick up 2 trips that bring them below 65 hrs. Fo said “but this next one I put in after that’s just an add, brings it up to 80 hrs”

I don’t understand how to make it any clearer. No going under 65, and those requests trying to get rid of 4 at once for 2 trips will never work; nor the 8 variations you’ve put in.

irrelevant

If they'd fix the system to process in real time, as required, no one would need to put in 15 requests to drop one trip. Until then...

soitgoes

I don't take it as singling out, and you're absolutely correct ... I spent like 2.5 months on Reserve and have been R1 ever since. Between SAP and Mil leave I've had zero use for the Seniority/First-Come (sts) bidding, so my knowledge is lacking in every regard, as this was the first time I'd been "forced" to use it.

I would have to imagine that that (scheduling ignorance) would hold true for many people hired in the past one to two years, although I'm sure that I am even more behind the curve.

Thanks for the input, and I'll make it a point to dig into the experience of some of the guys in the left seat...


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Jma313

It seems like roughly half the pilot group is on reserve. I have no numbers to back this up but most people I meet are reservists.

Urban achiever

Someone actually ran the numbers. It’s 25% minimum on the Capt side are on reserve. I suspect we need so many due to the 200 always having problems and burning all of them just to keep the gears turning. Except in orf. You’ll never fly there