chrisreedrules

Don't forget 12 days off minimum for ALL pilots.

FlyyGuyy

12 would be cool. not a deal breaker for me. but i get it.

irrelevant

I just see it as a simple supply and demand problem. Demand goes up around the holidays, and so do ticket prices. Simply raise the prices of each ticket $3 or so per hour of segment length. That's an extra $228/hour on a 76-seat aircraft to incentivize us to come in....pretty much exactly 300% of current average hourly crew pay rates.

Honestly if a passenger can't cough up an extra .75%-1% on their holiday ticket to help ensure they get where they want to go, they can drive.

FlyyGuyy

they must not want to go that bad.

Stratapilot

Where do you think we got it from? A mainline quality perk at a regional level carrier doesn’t manifest itself out of thin air. Know a lot of US Airways guys wistfully talk about SAP, and it sounds pretty identical to what we have. They talk about it like it was the one that got away.

Stratapilot

Or we can do all that and NOT give up line bidding to remain competitive with Endeavor and continue to fill seats. Which is what I guarantee you the folks in Dayton are more interested in. They’re not interested in getting rid of a major perk that’s a draw to PSA because it causes them a headache and a few extra sheckles a once or twice a year. Again we’re (pilots) expending a tremendous about of energy mentally masturbating over this for reasons that escape me.

FlyyGuyy

Hahaha
No energy wasted here. I prefer line bidding for sure. But with the pending death of flica i believe Dayton wants to birds killed with one stone...

Irishblackbird

Yep, and it's also worth noting that many of those other industries employees are home at night to sleep in their own beds, have weekends off, are able to attend their kids games and school functions, join a softball league, be a coach, go to doctor's appointment's without taking a whole day off, and all while not living in a hotel room half of the year. For less money, sure I suppose it depends on the career they are in, there are many that make more money too. Your argument is fruitless. Even the bag boy at the local grocery store gets time and a half on holidays.

Irishblackbird

In today's economic setting and the state of the airline indusrty, I don't understand why we are even talking about conssessions. Which giving up SAP most certainly is. We should be demanding that it continued to be improved upon and not trading it away for something that benifits the company and only the most senior of the pilot group. To be honest, our MEC shouldn't even entertain the removal of SAP or negotiating it to some lesser form. Endeavor raised the bar to a new level without giving up anything why the hell would we? I think our MEC underestimate's the value of SAP to our pilot group. I was talking with one of our union reps a few weeks ago and all he could tell me and the other crewmember was how much more efficient PBS would be for the company and our schedules and continued to try to sell the benifits of it to us. When I told him I wasn't interested in PBS, his response was that it didnt matter to me anyway since I couldn't vote yet because I haven't completed probation. I had to laugh. Yep, unless the vote is held within 3 months I won't have a say in it, but if it's after that, my vote will be a big ducking "NO!" Again, Endeavor just set a new standard if their TA passes. Either make continued improvements in compensation and qol, or see our prospective pilot pool dwindle.

chrisreedrules

I'm personally not opposed to PBS. My caveat to that is that the company would need to basically hand it over to the union and let them have almost total control over it and our union have people that work on it full time.

That being said, I personally don't see much of a need to get rid of the line bidding we currently have. It works for me and most of the pilots here just fine. I get high credit commutable trips and I'm off every day I want to be off. I just don't see a problem with it from my perspective.