Letters of Investigation for VA benefits
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You’re wrong on this big John. Here is the quote:
”The agency hired former staffers from its Office of Aerospace Medicine to help review the cases as contractors, but told them the nature of their work was secret, according to people involved in the project.”
If the reporting is correct, then overall effort was kept secret. Not specifically targeted investigations based on credible information.
You can type a million words in obfuscation which seems to be your MO so that you can win an argument by attrition, but secret means secret. That should not be the business of a government agency with no law enforcement authorities…certainly when they are targeting a specific minority group.
Also, still don’t understand the personal attacks. Do you work for the FAA and I have offended you?
”The agency hired former staffers from its Office of Aerospace Medicine to help review the cases as contractors, but told them the nature of their work was secret, according to people involved in the project.”
If the reporting is correct, then overall effort was kept secret. Not specifically targeted investigations based on credible information.
You can type a million words in obfuscation which seems to be your MO so that you can win an argument by attrition, but secret means secret. That should not be the business of a government agency with no law enforcement authorities…certainly when they are targeting a specific minority group.
Also, still don’t understand the personal attacks. Do you work for the FAA and I have offended you?
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You’re wrong on this big John. Here is the quote:
”The agency hired former staffers from its Office of Aerospace Medicine to help review the cases as contractors, but told them the nature of their work was secret, according to people involved in the project.”
If the reporting is correct, then overall effort was kept secret. Not specifically targeted investigations based on credible information.
you can type a million words in obfuscation which seems to be your MO so that you can win and argument by attrition, but secret means secret. That should not be the business of a government agency with no law enforcement authorities.
Also, still don’t understand the personal attacks. Do you work for the FAA and I have offended you?
”The agency hired former staffers from its Office of Aerospace Medicine to help review the cases as contractors, but told them the nature of their work was secret, according to people involved in the project.”
If the reporting is correct, then overall effort was kept secret. Not specifically targeted investigations based on credible information.
you can type a million words in obfuscation which seems to be your MO so that you can win and argument by attrition, but secret means secret. That should not be the business of a government agency with no law enforcement authorities.
Also, still don’t understand the personal attacks. Do you work for the FAA and I have offended you?
Permitted Uses and Disclosures
The law permits, but does not require, a covered entity to use and disclose PHI, without an individual’s authorization, for the following purposes or situations:- Disclosure to the individual (if the information is required for access or accounting of disclosures, the entity MUST disclose to the individual)
- Treatment, payment, and healthcare operations
- Opportunity to agree or object to the disclosure of PHI
- An entity can obtain informal permission by asking the individual outright, or by circumstances that clearly give the individual the opportunity to agree, acquiesce, or object
- Incident to an otherwise permitted use and disclosure
- Limited dataset for research, public health, or healthcare operations
- Public interest and benefit activities—The Privacy Rule permits use and disclosure of PHI, without an individual’s authorization or permission, for 12 national priority purposes:
- When required by law
- Public health activities
- Victims of abuse or neglect or domestic violence
- Health oversight activities
- Judicial and administrative proceedings
- Law enforcement
- Functions (such as identification) concerning deceased persons
- Cadaveric organ, eye, or tissue donation
- Research, under certain conditions
- To prevent or lessen a serious threat to health or safety
- Essential government functions
- Workers’ compensation
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And I don’t think you have so much offended him personally as offended common sense with your paranoia and attempt to make this something it isn’t.
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This was not a reporter’s adjective. It is in a quote that was sourced to multiple people from a reputable newspaper. Here is it is again for you John:
“The agency hired former staffers from its Office of Aerospace Medicine to help review the cases as contractors, but told them the nature of their work was secret, according to people involved in the project.”
I welcome your breakdown of my post. I try to be a fair guy, so if you have a differing opinion that doesn’t involve blanket insults, then make your argument. I’ll read it with an open mind.
ad·jec·tive /ˈajəktiv/ - a word or phrase naming an attribute, added to or grammatically related to a noun to modify or describe it.
quote /kwōt/ - repeat or copy out (a group of words from a text or speech), typically with an indication that one is not the original author or speaker.
"he quoted a passage from the Psalms"
“The agency hired former staffers from its Office of Aerospace Medicine to help review the cases as contractors, but told them the nature of their work was secret, according to people involved in the project.”
I welcome your breakdown of my post. I try to be a fair guy, so if you have a differing opinion that doesn’t involve blanket insults, then make your argument. I’ll read it with an open mind.
ad·jec·tive /ˈajəktiv/ - a word or phrase naming an attribute, added to or grammatically related to a noun to modify or describe it.
quote /kwōt/ - repeat or copy out (a group of words from a text or speech), typically with an indication that one is not the original author or speaker.
"he quoted a passage from the Psalms"
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Really? Travel vouchers are reviewable years after they are filed. Pay inquiries (at least for the DoD) can be initiated by a simple pay clerk. You really don’t think that a federal pension holding entity cant reach out and touch your wallet?
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Not according to the law. The law specifically states their records may be used for “judicial and administrative purposes” or “to prevent a serious threat to health and safety.” You may not LIKE that, but it’s STILL the law.
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If you mean that there is a statute of limitations on fraud, and you can be prosecuted if it’s discovered in that timeframe, then you are absolutely correct. Do you believe there should be no statute of limitations on fraud? That if you sneak it by the pay clerk initially you ought to be home free- even if your fraud is discovered a year later?
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No, you've lied again, which is to say, you'er a liar. It's what you do.
I've no anger here; just disgust and no respect. There's not much lower than a liar.
Veterans receiving VA benefits who apply for a FAA medical and who fail to report those benefits are und scrutiny for failure to follow the regulation, and the legal requirement for that has already been cited for you, with a link so you can view it yourself.
You didn't do that, did you?
I've no anger here; just disgust and no respect. There's not much lower than a liar.
Veterans receiving VA benefits who apply for a FAA medical and who fail to report those benefits are und scrutiny for failure to follow the regulation, and the legal requirement for that has already been cited for you, with a link so you can view it yourself.
You didn't do that, did you?
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If you mean that there is a statute of limitations on fraud, and you can be prosecuted if it’s discovered in that timeframe, then you are absolutely correct. Do you believe there should be no statute of limitations on fraud? That if you sneak it by the pay clerk initially you ought to be home free- even if your fraud is discovered a year later?
why do you always assume nefarious intent? Ever make a topo? I make them all he time.
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No, you've lied again, which is to say, you'er a liar. It's what you do.
I've no anger here; just disgust and no respect. There's not much lower than a liar.
Veterans receiving VA benefits who apply for a FAA medical and who fail to report those benefits are und scrutiny for failure to follow the regulation, and the legal requirement for that has already been cited for you, with a link so you can view it yourself.
You didn't do that, did you?
I've no anger here; just disgust and no respect. There's not much lower than a liar.
Veterans receiving VA benefits who apply for a FAA medical and who fail to report those benefits are und scrutiny for failure to follow the regulation, and the legal requirement for that has already been cited for you, with a link so you can view it yourself.
You didn't do that, did you?
On a side note, why would you be “disgusted” with someone who doesn’t share your point of view and disagrees with you? You’ve never met me yet your default seems to be vitriolic outburst because I think you’re wrong. I hope your life gets better for you because you seem to be missing something in the empathy department.
I’m also still not clear on why you think I have lied to you.
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One of the three people I personally know just received a permanent airman certificate revocation and is now expecting charges. The other two are still in the records submission process with the FAA. The pilot who received the revocation had a 100% disability rating and was being compensated for service connected sleep apnea, PTSD and depression that he did not report on FAA medical application for the past several years since receiving the rating. I think part of the decision was based on how many prior medical certificate applications were submitted without checking the disability benefits block. I’m guessing here but as I understand his description of logic was a recent award where one maybe “forgot” or didn’t think to check the block could be explained/negotiated but several years of not checking it while continuing to receive compensation indicated willful behaviors in not disclosing potentially disqualifying conditions. We’ll see what the future brings. I think after this initial run, the FAA may become even more aggressive if folks aren’t being up front. I also agree with previous statements that the FAA is pursing the fraudulent applications versus necessarily actually exercising airman privileges with potentially disqualifying conditions.!
If that’s how the facts played out then yes target the individual.
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