Letters of Investigation for VA benefits
07-09-2024, 04:03 PM
#152
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Posts: 6,254
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3691420-post32.html
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3691448-post34.html
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3782095-post70.html
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3816198-post138.html
The six-million dollar number, incidentally, was one that was very well known at the time Hoover was pursuing his medical. I recall it well, and it was a frequent topic of discussion in the cockpit, class, FBO's with students, you name it.
https://www.aviationpros.com/tools-e...ights-not-over
F Lee Baily, who did considerable work on behalf of Hoover, did it pro bono, else the costs would have been substantially higher.
You're a little late to the party, and yet, wrong once again.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3691448-post34.html
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3782095-post70.html
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/3816198-post138.html
The six-million dollar number, incidentally, was one that was very well known at the time Hoover was pursuing his medical. I recall it well, and it was a frequent topic of discussion in the cockpit, class, FBO's with students, you name it.
https://www.aviationpros.com/tools-e...ights-not-over
What followed became a three-year struggle for Hoover. It developed into an immense industry-wide protest of a scope that had never been seen before… or since. After millions of dollars, tremendous personal embarrassment, and no small amount of legal maneuvering, the FAA relented and restored Bob’s privileges—to the delight of flyers everywhere.
You're a little late to the party, and yet, wrong once again.
Last edited by JohnBurke; 07-09-2024 at 04:24 PM.
07-09-2024, 09:17 PM
#153
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Joined APC: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,473
You havent cited ONE source for any of your claims. Yet Ive already cited two. Are you really that dense??
You claim Hoover had more than $6M in legal bills, yet you didnt even cite that?? I seriously doubt it it was even 10% of that, since even homicide legal expenses from a reputable private firm run from about $80K-125K.
https://www.quora.com/If-a-lawyer-ta...ill-he-require
Please cite the $6M figure for Hoover.
Your ego is on Everest but you IQ is on the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
Can't even imagine how much your wife and kids disrespect you.
You claim Hoover had more than $6M in legal bills, yet you didnt even cite that?? I seriously doubt it it was even 10% of that, since even homicide legal expenses from a reputable private firm run from about $80K-125K.
https://www.quora.com/If-a-lawyer-ta...ill-he-require
Please cite the $6M figure for Hoover.
Your ego is on Everest but you IQ is on the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
Can't even imagine how much your wife and kids disrespect you.
07-12-2024, 09:25 PM
#154
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,152
To pick up where last left off, and in particular to those who think the FAA world revolves around persecuting former military (veterans), a reminder that enforcement for failure to report benefits covers far more than just VA benefits. AOPA reports on the case of a seventy-one year old retired USAF colonel who pled guilty to fraudulent claim of social security benefits, and was also conficted of three counts of making falsle statements to the FAA; the conviction was in federal court, by jury, not merely an FAA administrative action. The subject defrauded both the VA and the Social Security Administration, though most charges were dropped by plea, with one guilty plea for the social security, and restitution of some one hundred forty thousand and change. The jury conviction wasn't for the theft from the government, but for lying to the FAA, specificly failure to report disability benefits. The seventy-one year old was one of those discovered by the VA investigation that was pressed into the FAA's hands. It moved beyond an administrative action, to criminal charges. The retired colonel was found to have not lied to the FAA by error, but by intent, hence, the conviction.
The subject was facing up to five years in prison per charge, and a quarter of a million dollar fine per charge, which led him to plead down to the single charge of social securities fraud. He did wind up with a three year sentence (supervised release), and eight hundrd fifty thousand in fines.
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2024/june/13/pilot-sentenced-for-lying-on-faa-medical-applications?utm_source=epilot&utm_medium=email
It's worth mentioning because discovery of failure to disclose goes far beyond a slap on the wrist or even a certificate suspension. It can get a lot worse, to include criminal federal charges, jail time, and big fines, and it can extend beyond your flying career years. Nothing with which to toy around.
From AMAS (Aviation Medicine Advisory Service) today, in their email news blast (no link because email):
The linked article above by. Susan Northrup (https://medium.com/faa/reporting-disability-compensation-6b432fd3b8ce) is worth reviewing:
The subject was facing up to five years in prison per charge, and a quarter of a million dollar fine per charge, which led him to plead down to the single charge of social securities fraud. He did wind up with a three year sentence (supervised release), and eight hundrd fifty thousand in fines.
https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2024/june/13/pilot-sentenced-for-lying-on-faa-medical-applications?utm_source=epilot&utm_medium=email
It's worth mentioning because discovery of failure to disclose goes far beyond a slap on the wrist or even a certificate suspension. It can get a lot worse, to include criminal federal charges, jail time, and big fines, and it can extend beyond your flying career years. Nothing with which to toy around.
From AMAS (Aviation Medicine Advisory Service) today, in their email news blast (no link because email):
The linked article above by. Susan Northrup (https://medium.com/faa/reporting-disability-compensation-6b432fd3b8ce) is worth reviewing:
man you really hate the military, it's one of your favorite rants.
One scammer out of millions who served honorably and here comes an essay from JB.
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07-20-2024, 09:24 PM
#156
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You claim "nothing whatsoever to do with the military" yet your post mentions the military 5 times.
We all know you hate the military, continued denials and postings just prove the point.
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07-21-2024, 09:27 AM
#158
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,254
Irrelevant.
Many seem to miss the point.
This isn't about the military.
It's about FAA medical certificates, and required reporting. It's also about the penalties for failure to abide the regulation.
Don't fail to report, then blame the FAA.
Many seem to miss the point.
This isn't about the military.
It's about FAA medical certificates, and required reporting. It's also about the penalties for failure to abide the regulation.
Don't fail to report, then blame the FAA.
07-21-2024, 08:31 PM
#160
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,152
Your history proves you are wrong. You predictably show up in every discussion about the VA spouting off about military scammers.
It's like a baited hook, you can't resist it.
It is the most constant thing on these forums, you have created a reputation as a military hater.
It seems to be your nature to lecture others as inferiors.
No one here is scamming the system and then whining about it.
None of us are even defending the handful of scammers out of millions of veterans.
Most of us vets would say lock them up, the difference is we don't go on and on and on about.
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It's like a baited hook, you can't resist it.
It is the most constant thing on these forums, you have created a reputation as a military hater.
It seems to be your nature to lecture others as inferiors.
No one here is scamming the system and then whining about it.
None of us are even defending the handful of scammers out of millions of veterans.
Most of us vets would say lock them up, the difference is we don't go on and on and on about.
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