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Old 09-10-2014, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Striker
I've been at this company for 4 years now. My last reserve take home pay was $1,100. After paying my crash pad rent, car payment, "minimum" credit card payment and home/renters insurance I'm left with barely $100 in my checking account. It's only September 8th and I'm already being forced to use my credit card to put gas in my car and food on the table. I have over $10,000 in credit card debt. Despite numerous attempts to pay down my debt, it seems like I get screwed over every couple of months and end up having to put more charges on my credit card. We're highly trained professional pilots. We shouldn't have to live like this..
You knew the pay before joining the ranks didn't you? I did! Reserve for 4 years? What Company??
If Piedmont Signs this deal and it sucks it won't matter. People won't go there. However PDT's deal is right in line with Mesa, Compass, and SkyWest. Let the market and pilot shortage play out. Things will change soon, but PDT pilots will not fall on the sword for your sad story.
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Originally Posted by billyho
You knew the pay before joining the ranks didn't you? I did! Reserve for 4 years? What Company??
If Piedmont Signs this deal and it sucks it won't matter. People won't go there. However PDT's deal is right in line with Mesa, Compass, and SkyWest. Let the market and pilot shortage play out. Things will change soon, but PDT pilots will not fall on the sword for your sad story.
He is not the only one with that "sad story" and there is no reason any pilot should live like that.
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If we don't stand up and act like we have some juevos, this will continue. We are worth more than $23k a year. Don't punk out, don't lower the bar!

Sorry, but you are only worth what you get paid. Face reality, a regional airline is an entry level job and a regional f/o is paid so little, because most bring so little to the table (experience and skill wise). That's all you are worth.
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Sorry, but you are only worth what you get paid. Face reality, a regional airline is an entry level job and a regional f/o is paid so little, because most bring so little to the table (experience and skill wise). That's all you are worth.
Wow, do I even need a pilot's license to fly for a regional airline, or do they give that to me in the first year?
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:25 AM
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If we don't stand up and act like we have some juevos, this will continue. We are worth more than $23k a year. Don't punk out, don't lower the bar!





Sorry, but you are only worth what you get paid. Face reality, a regional airline is an entry level job and a regional f/o is paid so little, because most bring so little to the table (experience and skill wise). That's all you are worth.
That's ignorant. So a 20 year corporate jet pilot who goes to a regional is unskilled?
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by skypilot35
He is not the only one with that "sad story" and there is no reason any pilot should live like that.
Choice is a wonderful thing, but it is a double edged sword. Bad choices will always be bad choices. Employment is a volunteer process, prisoners to this industry are self imposed.
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Old 09-10-2014, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
That's ignorant. So a 20 year corporate jet pilot who goes to a regional is unskilled?
You are the ignorant one who can't read. I specifically said "most". "Most" regional new hires are not 20 year corporate jet pilots. Why would a 20 year corporate jet pilot be starting at a regional? There has to be a good story behind this.
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Originally Posted by Brand X
Sorry, but you are only worth what you get paid. Face reality, a regional airline is an entry level job and a regional f/o is paid so little, because most bring so little to the table (experience and skill wise). That's all you are worth.
Sorry but your an idiot or management troll. No your both.
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That's ignorant. So a 20 year corporate jet pilot who goes to a regional is unskilled?
Sorry to say yes, flying is the basic skill set, operating in an airline environment is wildly different from freight and corporate. Note the difference between flying and operating. That's why one has to be a F/O prior to upgrade in almost ever situation in the airline world. Not because of some mysterious power, it's the required skillset.
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You are the ignorant one who can't read. I specifically said "most". "Most" regional new hires are not 20 year corporate jet pilots. Why would a 20 year corporate jet pilot be starting at a regional? There has to be a good story behind this.
How do you get "most", what stats prove this?

My class of 25 had 3 new hires who instructed prior to now. The rest had previous experience in the corporate world, 135, prior 121, military.
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