Piedmont Information
03-07-2008, 09:02 PM
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Piedmont Information
I have a friend who emailed me asking about Piedmont Airlines. I know nothing about them except that they fly for Airways. Good company? Bad company? What can I tell him. Anyone that is there and wants to help me out PM me or whatever.
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03-08-2008, 11:54 AM
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Just like any other company, they have their plusses and minuses. First year pay is great, a little bit lower than average after that. You get monthly guarantee plus per diem in training. Good bunch of instructors...mostly current or retired line pilots.
There is a little uncertainty about the Dash's future...they still don't know what they're gonna do when the leases go up. And they tend to open and close bases frequently.
Other than that, I found everyone to be helpful and friendly. And the upgrade is currenly at 3 years and still supposed to drop. PM me if you have any more questions.
-MJ
There is a little uncertainty about the Dash's future...they still don't know what they're gonna do when the leases go up. And they tend to open and close bases frequently.
Other than that, I found everyone to be helpful and friendly. And the upgrade is currenly at 3 years and still supposed to drop. PM me if you have any more questions.
-MJ
03-25-2008, 02:15 PM
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When is the lease on the Dash's up?
When they open/close bases do they help with moving expenses or are you responsible to move at their whim?
03-26-2008, 08:44 AM
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1) I think the leases are up at the end of next year. Don't quote me on that.
2) They reimburse you for moving expenses, but you get it added to your paycheck. Therefore, you are taxed on it like its income. Nice guys...
2) They reimburse you for moving expenses, but you get it added to your paycheck. Therefore, you are taxed on it like its income. Nice guys...
03-26-2008, 02:49 PM
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Right now Piedmont has a fairly quick upgrade time, they're advertising a "Flow Through" to mainline USAirways, and the Regional chief Pilot is telling the new hires about the aquisition of Q400's. Don't Buy it!
The quick upgrade is due to the large number of pilots leaving but MNGMT is not planning on changing the 3000hr min for upgrade. The training Dept. Is already saying that they'll be out of qualified upgrade canidates by Nov 08.
The Flow through is NOT a flow through. It's called the Preferential hiring agreement and all it does is penalize pilots who fly for PSA and Piedmont. If you want to fly at USAirways you may submit an application, but if you work at Piedmont, Airways has been instructed Not to call you until your seniority number comes up and when they do interview you, and if they hire you (Which many have not been) you'll be put on a list of canidates awaiting "Release" from Piedmont.(Which may take a year to two years) Meanwhile every other pilot on the globe is interviewing and being hired ahead of you.
Lastly, Piedmont is NOT getting ANY new aircraft in the near future. There are about ten points to emphasize but I'll cover a few.
LCC CEO Doug Parker has repeatedly stated that there will be no increase in capacity for the regional and domestic flying. (A Q400 would increase capacity at Piedmont substantially)
Piedmont operates at %57 load factor so Airways has no interest in increasing capacity.
When asked about the Q400, Airways FAQ said "We like the aircraft and if we purchased some they'd be used to replace the 50 seat Rj's" not dash-8's. Which means Piedmont would have to aquire additional flying to opperate them. Piedmont is currently flying 48 aircraft lines out of their 55 aircraft. (Others are "parked") Their goal is 50 in May.
Piedmont has still not gotten relief from the scope clause in the Mainline pilot contract forbidding them to operate RJ's and aircraft certified over 69 seats. (PSA has by the way)
These are just some of the reasons not to buy into Piedmont's sale to young pilots. If you're an aspiring pilot or a pilot interviewing, do yourself a favor, go to Compass, PSA, Republic, MESA, Sky West, ASA, Freedom, Go Jets, McDonald's, Wal-Mart, anywhere else. If you want to be a Dash-8 Captain and fly in and out of PHL and LGA while being treated like the red-headed step child for the forseeable future then by all means, come to Piedmont.
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The quick upgrade is due to the large number of pilots leaving but MNGMT is not planning on changing the 3000hr min for upgrade. The training Dept. Is already saying that they'll be out of qualified upgrade canidates by Nov 08.
The Flow through is NOT a flow through. It's called the Preferential hiring agreement and all it does is penalize pilots who fly for PSA and Piedmont. If you want to fly at USAirways you may submit an application, but if you work at Piedmont, Airways has been instructed Not to call you until your seniority number comes up and when they do interview you, and if they hire you (Which many have not been) you'll be put on a list of canidates awaiting "Release" from Piedmont.(Which may take a year to two years) Meanwhile every other pilot on the globe is interviewing and being hired ahead of you.
Lastly, Piedmont is NOT getting ANY new aircraft in the near future. There are about ten points to emphasize but I'll cover a few.
LCC CEO Doug Parker has repeatedly stated that there will be no increase in capacity for the regional and domestic flying. (A Q400 would increase capacity at Piedmont substantially)
Piedmont operates at %57 load factor so Airways has no interest in increasing capacity.
When asked about the Q400, Airways FAQ said "We like the aircraft and if we purchased some they'd be used to replace the 50 seat Rj's" not dash-8's. Which means Piedmont would have to aquire additional flying to opperate them. Piedmont is currently flying 48 aircraft lines out of their 55 aircraft. (Others are "parked") Their goal is 50 in May.
Piedmont has still not gotten relief from the scope clause in the Mainline pilot contract forbidding them to operate RJ's and aircraft certified over 69 seats. (PSA has by the way)
These are just some of the reasons not to buy into Piedmont's sale to young pilots. If you're an aspiring pilot or a pilot interviewing, do yourself a favor, go to Compass, PSA, Republic, MESA, Sky West, ASA, Freedom, Go Jets, McDonald's, Wal-Mart, anywhere else. If you want to be a Dash-8 Captain and fly in and out of PHL and LGA while being treated like the red-headed step child for the forseeable future then by all means, come to Piedmont.
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03-26-2008, 06:57 PM
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That's a bit harsh man, PDT is better than a few of those other airlines you mentioned, lets be honest...we've got a dscent contract, fly cool airplanes and I fly with pretty cool crews. I never like being put below the likes of Mesa and GoJet, damn dude...
maybe not McDonalds though, that place is better than almost any regional out there, especially earning potential
maybe not McDonalds though, that place is better than almost any regional out there, especially earning potential
03-26-2008, 07:09 PM
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[quote=Captjhan;349104]
The quick upgrade is due to the large number of pilots leaving but MNGMT is not planning on changing the 3000hr min for upgrade.
That will be a bummer for all the 250 hr guys with 10 hrs of multi
The quick upgrade is due to the large number of pilots leaving but MNGMT is not planning on changing the 3000hr min for upgrade.
That will be a bummer for all the 250 hr guys with 10 hrs of multi
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