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Old 10-18-2017, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyjustin
Detroit’s where dreams come true! Or where mine died, haven’t decided yet.
2009 never forget how bad mo town had it. Collapse of the economy. Lions go 0-16 sparty loses to NC in men’s chipper and the icing on the cake. Red wings loose game seven at home to the Pens. Cannot recall how the tigers did, but I’m guessing they didn’t go .500. Nemos. You will always have that!

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Old 10-19-2017, 09:21 PM
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Any estimates on attrition outside of the flow each month? I’m sure it’s very few since most stick it out for the flow, but I’d imagine we have some going elsewhere.
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2009 never forget how bad mo town had it. Collapse of the economy. Lions go 0-16 sparty loses to NC in men’s chipper and the icing on the cake. Red wings loose game seven at home to the Pens. Cannot recall how the tigers did, but I’m guessing they didn’t go .500. Nemos. You will always have that!
Go Pens

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Old 10-20-2017, 09:40 AM
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Hey so I have heard conflicting information on PBS, I am not informed enough to be for it or against it. I have heard it is a concession, it will not improve schedules and it will just be beneficial to the top 10% of the seniority list. I have heard it will be great, it will build more efficient trips with more block time during trips and more days off while also making bidding a lot less time consuming. I understand that our great vacation language will take a hit with PBS and a lot of these factors are based off contractual language. Just looking for some true insight.

On a side note it seems that the PSA pilot group is vehemently against PBS and they supposed have “the best” regional schedules.

First off. How great can our vaca language be when you can still only get two weeks off with five days? And you lose credit? Not really a paid vaca is it.

We get flights from AA. With the bank system they can only be so efficient. How can pbs maximize a schedule with two hour sits in it because of the banks? We have only so many flights. Efficient scheds require multiple hubs and large amounts of flying to weave together. And why pray tell would want efficiency at all?

Less efficient=more crews=Faster flow=mo money=mo Betta

Unless you are worried that delta/NASA is just waiting for your 1000 pic time to spring into action and snatch up a very valuable E-145 typed pilot.
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Old 10-20-2017, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by GoNova
Hey so I have heard conflicting information on PBS, I am not informed enough to be for it or against it. I have heard it is a concession, it will not improve schedules and it will just be beneficial to the top 10% of the seniority list. I have heard it will be great, it will build more efficient trips with more block time during trips and more days off while also making bidding a lot less time consuming. I understand that our great vacation language will take a hit with PBS and a lot of these factors are based off contractual language. Just looking for some true insight.

On a side note it seems that the PSA pilot group is vehemently against PBS and they supposed have “the best” regional schedules.
PBS can be sweet IF we have strong union language with it. As far as vacation concession its false (with strong langauge). Examples: award a PBS line to the pilot group and if we have language such as a pilot is awarded a vacation slot from the 1st of the month to the 15th of the month and may place said vacation anywhere on his bid AFTER final awards and what ever trip it touches is dropped. This can give us the same days off we have now. As well as language such as only 15% of pbs lines may be built at contract minimim days off, or once a pbs line is awarded scheduling may not place any open time on a pilots schedule (no interface). Or, once a PBS line is awarded a pilot may drop days down to 65 hours but is only paid said 65 hours....
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Old 10-20-2017, 09:47 AM
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SAP Scheduling at 900 pilots? Who's in?
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyjustin
PBS can be sweet IF we have strong union language with it. As far as vacation concession its false (with strong langauge). Examples: award a PBS line to the pilot group and if we have language such as a pilot is awarded a vacation slot from the 1st of the month to the 15th of the month and may place said vacation anywhere on his bid AFTER final awards and what ever trip it touches is dropped. This can give us the same days off we have now. As well as language such as only 15% of pbs lines may be built at contract minimim days off, or once a pbs line is awarded scheduling may not place any open time on a pilots schedule (no interface). Or, once a PBS line is awarded a pilot may drop days down to 65 hours but is only paid said 65 hours....
Once again. Fly Justin speaks the truth. IGOPEPE
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IGOPEPE every leg.....
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Old 10-20-2017, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GoNova
Hey so I have heard conflicting information on PBS, I am not informed enough to be for it or against it. I have heard it is a concession, it will not improve schedules and it will just be beneficial to the top 10% of the seniority list. I have heard it will be great, it will build more efficient trips with more block time during trips and more days off while also making bidding a lot less time consuming. I understand that our great vacation language will take a hit with PBS and a lot of these factors are based off contractual language. Just looking for some true insight.

On a side note it seems that the PSA pilot group is vehemently against PBS and they supposed have “the best” regional schedules.
I'm tired of hearing that our vacation language is great. max 22 days off for the most part, and the kicker is..... you don't even get paid all of it!

Our contract is a steaming pile of garbage. There is no way around it. Don't get sold a lie on our vacation. There are plenty of ways to do it that are better than our current contract language and anyone telling you that there is no alternative to the current system are either lying or seriously misinformed
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SAP Scheduling at 900 pilots? Who's in?
Yes.

This guy is onto something.
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