Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
01-09-2024, 08:00 AM
#6961
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Posts: 23
Article mentions nineteen Embraer regional jets will join the fleet of American Airlines Group subsidiary Envoy Air which with the additional aircraft will bring Envoy’s total fleet commitment to 169 (126 E175s and 43 E170s). No mention of Piedmont Airlines and a much needed replacement for the ERJ145 if Piedmont is to contimnue flight operations beyond the next 5-10 years. However, the article does mention that American/Envoy has 30 ERJ145s in storage.
Envoy Air Grows Fleet With 19 More Embraer E-Jets Aviation Week Network
Envoy Air Grows Fleet With 19 More Embraer E-Jets Aviation Week Network
01-09-2024, 09:14 AM
#6962
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,980
Agree, for EL or MK to say something like that with such confidence just makes me wonder. Especially since I’ve heard about this conversation from at least three different people. No one really cares if they fly a 145 or 175, more money would be cool but doubtful. Just makes me think the only big thing that could be offered is seniority or advanced pay banding ( like we’ve been doing for prior 121 guys)
Seniority/longevity sound like a great deal, but Pandora's box will open. My class flowed in 2023, would we get the 6+ year plus up to longevity for our sentence at PDT or remain on year 1 while someone still at PDT comes in at year 6 when they flow? How far will longevity credit go back? Is there a cap to it? Stuff like that. A straight DOH staple is probably best for AA from a financial perspective if they go down that road, but then that will alienate a lot of the OTS military and OAL pilots they're targeting for hiring when 3,000 WO pilots get seniority numbers at once.
With hiring slowing down at the majors that may end up being something they don't have to make a decision about for years, especially if age 67 comes into fruition.
07-31-2024, 06:21 AM
#6963
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 85
Hire an absurd amount of DECs to cover "growth,"
175's are coming,
Stop hiring, introduce reduced flying schedules and leave options,
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/p...5-desert-fleet
Here come a bunch of planes from the desert, plan a September new hire class...
What is happeneing?
175's are coming,
Stop hiring, introduce reduced flying schedules and leave options,
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/p...5-desert-fleet
Here come a bunch of planes from the desert, plan a September new hire class...
What is happeneing?
09-12-2024, 06:54 AM
#6966
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Semi-Retired...
Posts: 3,260
CPs have said pilots regretted flowing to AA because health insurance was so much more expensive when they heard people talked about applying outside the flow, so it really could be some insignificant thing that changes that they latch onto like it's gold.
Seniority/longevity sound like a great deal, but Pandora's box will open. My class flowed in 2023, would we get the 6+ year plus up to longevity for our sentence at PDT or remain on year 1 while someone still at PDT comes in at year 6 when they flow? How far will longevity credit go back? Is there a cap to it? Stuff like that. A straight DOH staple is probably best for AA from a financial perspective if they go down that road, but then that will alienate a lot of the OTS military and OAL pilots they're targeting for hiring when 3,000 WO pilots get seniority numbers at once.
With hiring slowing down at the majors that may end up being something they don't have to make a decision about for years, especially if age 67 comes into fruition.
Seniority/longevity sound like a great deal, but Pandora's box will open. My class flowed in 2023, would we get the 6+ year plus up to longevity for our sentence at PDT or remain on year 1 while someone still at PDT comes in at year 6 when they flow? How far will longevity credit go back? Is there a cap to it? Stuff like that. A straight DOH staple is probably best for AA from a financial perspective if they go down that road, but then that will alienate a lot of the OTS military and OAL pilots they're targeting for hiring when 3,000 WO pilots get seniority numbers at once.
With hiring slowing down at the majors that may end up being something they don't have to make a decision about for years, especially if age 67 comes into fruition.
a "number" is useless if the music stops.
do not ever give concessions for "hope."
learn the industry history. The posts in this thread imply you're going to repeat history again.
09-12-2024, 08:13 AM
#6967
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 630
09-19-2024, 10:47 AM
#6970
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Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 1,051
ask guys that got AA seniority numbers and then waited 13 years to actually be given the chance to "flow."
a "number" is useless if the music stops.
do not ever give concessions for "hope."
learn the industry history. The posts in this thread imply you're going to repeat history again.
a "number" is useless if the music stops.
do not ever give concessions for "hope."
learn the industry history. The posts in this thread imply you're going to repeat history again.
Pilot pay is like Wall Street says about commodities. It takes the escalator up and the elevator down. I hope it stays where it is now until I retire but history says it won't. Good luck to us all.
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