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Old 10-05-2021, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CADR
I don't think it's just to bring in DECs, honestly they are just trying to get whoever they can at this point. Recruitment is struggling to attract people...surprise, surprise...

Let's be real, most pilots looking for a regional job today know that it's a pilot's market, and Piedmont has nothing special to offer that you can't get somewhere else.

Plus, the secret is out, there is HORRIBLE quality of life at Piedmont when you compare it to other regionals. No reason to choose Piedmont unless you have no other options. DECs sometimes have no other options, and PDT can blind them with bonuses and "flow".
Interesting. I speak to Piedmont pilots ALL THE TIME and not once has anyone described a horrible quality of life. Try to be positive man. Lots of good things going on around you at Piedmont and AA.
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Old 10-05-2021, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by reandld
Interesting. I speak to Piedmont pilots ALL THE TIME and not once has anyone described a horrible quality of life. Try to be positive man. Lots of good things going on around you at Piedmont and AA.
If things are going so well, why are the FA going to strike?
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Old 10-05-2021, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JC145
If things are going so well, why are the FA going to strike?
Not sure how this affects pilots. The pilots are knocking it out of the park at Piedmont. Huge bonuses, faster flow, and quicker upgrade. Need I say more?
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Old 10-05-2021, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by reandld
Not sure how this affects pilots. The pilots are knocking it out of the park at Piedmont. Huge bonuses, faster flow, and quicker upgrade. Need I say more?
nah you should say less. A lot less. Snake Used car salesman
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Old 10-07-2021, 03:39 PM
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What are the flow times of Piedmont if I am hired this year? And why would you consider Piedmont over PSA or Envoy? (a guy who is deciding between the three AA WO)
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Old 10-08-2021, 08:36 PM
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No need to spam multiple threads dude
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Old 10-09-2021, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JC145
They aren’t even upgrading current pilots on property due to “staffing”. Just flew with an FO who had his class delayed until November, yet we want to bring in DEC. Makes zero sense
Sounds like they are filling out their bench. The alligator closest to the boat is the FO shortage but the CA exodus isn’t far behind so they’re stocking up on DECs for when they have enough FO staffing to to start upgrading people. The DEC program provides them with flexibility: a current right seater with the option for a left seater when they choose to exercise their option. In the past we’ve also been able to source a handful of training pilots from DECs, which is a great thing for them to have in their back pocket too. All that it costs them is the pay differential between FO and CA and an extra 2-3 months of training time. Look at DECs as reserves for staffing rather than the line. Not saying that I like it but I can see the rationale behind it.
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Old 10-09-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by phrogfella
Sounds like they are filling out their bench. The alligator closest to the boat is the FO shortage but the CA exodus isn’t far behind so they’re stocking up on DECs for when they have enough FO staffing to to start upgrading people. The DEC program provides them with flexibility: a current right seater with the option for a left seater when they choose to exercise their option. In the past we’ve also been able to source a handful of training pilots from DECs, which is a great thing for them to have in their back pocket too. All that it costs them is the pay differential between FO and CA and an extra 2-3 months of training time. Look at DECs as reserves for staffing rather than the line. Not saying that I like it but I can see the rationale behind it.
Also, keeping a current FO from upgrading means that they will be stuck there longer. They won't be logging PIC time and be able to get hired at a major as quickly.

They are screwing over their current employees in an attempt to keep the sinking ship from going down as quickly.
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Old 10-09-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021
Also, keeping a current FO from upgrading means that they will be stuck there longer. They won't be logging PIC time and be able to get hired at a major as quickly.

They are screwing over their current employees in an attempt to keep the sinking ship from going down as quickly.
The current FO doesn’t get paid as a CA while the new hire DEC gets $90 an hour to do the same job. FO is still getting screwed.
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Old 10-09-2021, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JC145
If things are going so well, why are the FA going to strike?
You do know the FAs arent Pilots right? Like we're treated completely differently, right?
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