Tjeff

I mean it did, we were bleeding more pilots then 2019 and not a single one has gone to AA yet. Some FOs were going to LCCs some LCA trying for DAL, UA but 2 years ago most people I talked to were casual about the other legacies, really trying for AA and scoffed at LCCs and JetBlue but this past year that mentality switched to get out no matter where no matter what.

Now I already know some people turning down interviews to stay, the money is a huge plus but the increase in flow seems to be a bigger factor. A lot of people love the AA bases and want to drive to work and I don’t blame them. It’s like live in a base you love or possibly commute to ATL or NYC. I know there are other bases but so many people at the WOs live in one of the bases and love it. Say what you want about AA QoL vs other legacies but driving to work trumps all.

Lahey

absolutely..to each their own. it'll work for some but not all, it's great to hear more are leaving for other opportunities and now that LCA/union positions will open up its a great opportunity to build that resume and bounce if thats what you want to do.

payingdues

Dude nobody is saying to bypass the majors to stay? The whole goal is to prevent people from leaving to F9, Spirit, alaska, etc. idk where you got in your head that people are turning down Delta/United for a PDT retention program? And if they do then fine one more spot for you. Although if any part of your general attitude towards Piedmont shines through you won’t have a chance at getting hired off the street anywhere.

reandld

What a lot of people are missing is that you can still get hired outside of the flow at AA and get the EXACT SAME bonuses as someone who stuck around for flow. Nothing wrong with putting in your time and putting that app in and getting hired early. It happens all the time and the higher ups have confirmed that only a small percentage of Piedmont pilots have their AA apps complete.

Tjeff

Yeah about 8-10 PDT pilots hired/interviewed pre covid going to AA in the next 2 months alone vs the 12 flowing which is quite incredible.

dash8trash

Reading is tough. I know 3 people personally (not hearsay) who had upcoming interviews and/or CJOs with both B6 and UAL and are rescinding them. Straight from the horses mouth. Completely short-sighted and it’ll potentially cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars on the back end of their careers, but it’s hard to talk sense to someone when they have a raging b*ner because mainline is throwing them a “token of appreciation”. Don’t mind the handcuffs attached to it… Also, the airlines you specified above are all majors and the same mindset should apply to them as well.

payingdues

Well turning down United for that is stupid unless they are close to flow and have a choice between the too and an extra 100k. Whatever lol idc. I’m glad i got it and ill be out of here shortly and i hope the same for you.

dash8trash

I’ve spoken with a whole lot more today that aren't taking the bait and are keeping their previous offers and class dates so at least some still have some sense. Seriously though, it’s not as much about the money as it is the hidden implications it carries that some haven’t thoroughly considered because they’re blinded by dollar signs. Also, we really should keep fighting to actually FIX the issues that have plagued us forever. We should leave this place a little better for the next generation instead of essentially being bought off and kicking the problems further down the road.

I’ll be out of here shortly, but not to AA. Maybe they’ll divvy up my share amongst the flight attendants! Good luck

Tjeff

Maybe they’re long sighted? Maybe they live in a AA base? Maybe they don’t want to commute their whole life which actually could hurt schedule flexibility and career earnings due to having to commute? I mean some of the responses on this page seem to be spawned out of pure hatred and get out of Piedmont or you’re an idiot. By the way we all willingly chose to come here. Hundreds of thousands of dollars? Considering it will be a small amount of money compared to total career earnings, is that worth it to you to commute for the next 30 years going somewhere else? Moving away from family? Now that being said if you’re willing to move or live near multiple bases for different legacies it’s a different story.

If you lived and had family in a senior United, Delta, J6 etc base making $170k-200k a year as an FO are you going to commute cross country to a junior base to upgrade early? Are you going to sit reserve in a crash pad for years for the bigger check? Same
when a wide body slot opens up? You’re going to commute to the most junior base? Because if you don’t, you’re potentially giving up “hundreds of thousands of dollars”. So be willing to commute for a few years potentially 5-10 even if you live in a base just to make sure you get every penny…

Who are you to judge these people and call them short sighted? Maybe they’re doing what’s best for them and their family?

Wink

The PDT threads used to be a good place to share info/news but its honestly been infested with negativity and trolls as of late. FFS, we don't even have the final language and people are complaining about 150k. If it works for you, great. If it doesn't, don't take the money. I don't understand whats so hard about that.

The sport *****ing here is seriously out of control. PDT may not be the best but it's far from the concentration camp some people make it out to be.