Spuds10250

My fellow pilots,

There has been never a better time to come to Piedmont Airlines. With quick flow and quick upgrade, you'll find yourself in a wide body at American in no time. It's no wonder why AA turns towards PDT when they need the ship steered.

QuebOLimaJet

explain full gear vs the gear it has been stuck in the past 3 years.

TorqueWrench

Full Gear meaning that the airlines are hiring like gangbusters. The flow is bringing competent and experienced aviators from Piedmont to the Mainline quickly. Just as advertised.

There ain’t no stopping the flow train now buddy. Ain’t no one going to be in the way of that flow train coming at full speed. Buckle up

CADR

PDT flows 6 pilots / month. 72 pilots / year (and that’s if AA holds a new hire class in December which sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t).

Currently PDT has 659 pilots on the seniority list. You can chop off 100 pilots for the ones that are piedmont lifers and that brings you to the seniority level where we currently are on the current flow pilots and you have 559 pilots. Divide that by 72 pilots / year and you have 7.7 years (roughly 7 years & 8 months) for a flow for being the most jr pilot on seniority today.

For perspective purpose, a pilot hired today at PDT in August 2021 can expect/ estimate a flow to AA in April 2029 based on that ^ simple math.

Granted a lot of factors can change and estimating a flow date is not an exact science…. but that is just food for thought for any would be perspective pilots getting sold snake oil about “flow”.

Goingupinverted

There’s only 25 lifers left so add at least a year onto whatever you just calculated.

Southern Fried

So, you don't expect anyone to leave to go somewhere else? Any pilot that leaves for anywhere but AA throws off the math. For example, if only six pilots a month go somewhere else, that cuts the flow time in half, right? I'm being told (last week) that Piedmont is losing a pilot a day. That should cut the flow time quite a bit I would think. Just a quick observation, not trying to stir things up...

Cicada

You people need to lighten up. Do you really believe someone meant to interrogate him on a layover? And he would actually get blasted and " reveal secrets?"
You need to go to Delta.

Freighthotdog

Dont even try to make sense with the negative people on this forum. Their purpose in life is to paint Piedmont as a horrible place because they chose to commute across the country.

CADR

That’s why I said a lot of factors can change it. It’s not an exact science.

There hasn’t been a flow for a year…. keep that in mind. A lot of people hired in the past 5 years were not expecting there to be a year of no hiring and furloughs at mainline. Also, you’re right, people do leave. However if they are jr to you than it does nothing to bump up your flow date, it only helps you if they are senior to you and leave. Usually if people calculate themselves being somewhere within 1 to 1.5 years from flowing they usually say “screw it” and just wait to flow instead of putting in the work to try and leave. I think the majority of people leaving are mostly jr folks (been at PDT for 3 years or less). Yes a lot of the LCA guys and some captains are getting plucked by United / Delta. Most FOs are leaving for Frontier and Spirit. It will be interesting to see how many both FOs and CAs get calls and leave for Southwest and jetBlue now that both of their hiring departments are ramping up.

Anyway, my whole point was just so that the new hires of today don’t come in and expect a 5 year flow from date of hire. That’s probably more unlikely than likely. That’s all. I would hope a new hire is not picking Piedmont because they are shelling a “guaranteed job at AA in 5 years”.

Slow2Final

I can't tell if you're trying too hard to troll, or if you actually believe in this stuff. Either way, I appreciate the morning laugh!