Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
08-19-2020, 06:38 AM
#5601
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66 or more seats can not exceed 40% of the mainline narrowbody fleet.
The only thing I can really see hurting PDT is if Republic moves their 170s to AA with a 65 seat configuration. That could eat up a lot of 50 seat flying on the east coast, and could even get all the way to ORD and take the ENY 145 flying. The saving grace for now is the 170s have to park at mainline gates at PHL & CLT.
08-19-2020, 07:44 AM
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There is no limit to aircraft with 65 seats or less. The 145 and CRJ-700 are both in this category.
66 or more seats can not exceed 40% of the mainline narrowbody fleet.
The only thing I can really see hurting PDT is if Republic moves their 170s to AA with a 65 seat configuration. That could eat up a lot of 50 seat flying on the east coast, and could even get all the way to ORD and take the ENY 145 flying. The saving grace for now is the 170s have to park at mainline gates at PHL & CLT.
66 or more seats can not exceed 40% of the mainline narrowbody fleet.
The only thing I can really see hurting PDT is if Republic moves their 170s to AA with a 65 seat configuration. That could eat up a lot of 50 seat flying on the east coast, and could even get all the way to ORD and take the ENY 145 flying. The saving grace for now is the 170s have to park at mainline gates at PHL & CLT.
08-19-2020, 08:10 AM
#5603
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There is no limit to aircraft with 65 seats or less. The 145 and CRJ-700 are both in this category.
66 or more seats can not exceed 40% of the mainline narrowbody fleet.
The only thing I can really see hurting PDT is if Republic moves their 170s to AA with a 65 seat configuration. That could eat up a lot of 50 seat flying on the east coast, and could even get all the way to ORD and take the ENY 145 flying. The saving grace for now is the 170s have to park at mainline gates at PHL & CLT.
66 or more seats can not exceed 40% of the mainline narrowbody fleet.
The only thing I can really see hurting PDT is if Republic moves their 170s to AA with a 65 seat configuration. That could eat up a lot of 50 seat flying on the east coast, and could even get all the way to ORD and take the ENY 145 flying. The saving grace for now is the 170s have to park at mainline gates at PHL & CLT.
All RJs are limited by scope. Regionals are limited to 75% of the AA narrowbody fleet. Planes between 66 and 76 seats specifically are limited to 40% of the AA narrowbody fleet. So if AA chooses to max out the 66-76 seat range (which they do), big RJs will be 40% of narrowbody fleet and small RJs will be 35%. Almost equally limited.
08-19-2020, 08:24 AM
#5604
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Old scope clause, not the current one.
08-19-2020, 08:57 AM
#5606
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Nope...
Why did Piedmont take 2 seats out of our 300s. They were counted as RJs in the 50 seat.
Scope wasn't renegotiated at all since than.
Are flying 65 seat aircraft with 4 crew and higher fuel/ operating cost really worth it?
IDK... no one knows except the bean counters.
Why did Piedmont take 2 seats out of our 300s. They were counted as RJs in the 50 seat.
Scope wasn't renegotiated at all since than.
Are flying 65 seat aircraft with 4 crew and higher fuel/ operating cost really worth it?
IDK... no one knows except the bean counters.
08-19-2020, 09:31 AM
#5607
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,065
Nope...
Why did Piedmont take 2 seats out of our 300s. They were counted as RJs in the 50 seat.
Scope wasn't renegotiated at all since than.
Are flying 65 seat aircraft with 4 crew and higher fuel/ operating cost really worth it?
IDK... no one knows except the bean counters.
Why did Piedmont take 2 seats out of our 300s. They were counted as RJs in the 50 seat.
Scope wasn't renegotiated at all since than.
Are flying 65 seat aircraft with 4 crew and higher fuel/ operating cost really worth it?
IDK... no one knows except the bean counters.
Section 1.D.4.c.(2) says regional jets with 66 to 76 seats shall not exceed 40% of American’s narrow-body aircraft.
Turboprops with less than 50 seats are not counted in this tally, but are still limited to 10 percent of AA narrowbodies
Not sure why you are saying nope, no one is talking about the small turboprop numbers because they don't exist anymore. It's irrelevant
Last edited by sanicom3205; 08-19-2020 at 09:42 AM.
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