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05-22-2019, 09:27 AM

#4461

buddies8

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Originally Posted by Varsity

Why does a 176 seat 757 pay more than a 196 seat A321neo?

They are both >200,000lbs

Touche.......

05-22-2019, 12:06 PM

#4462

EyeKon

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Originally Posted by Varsity

Why does a 176 seat 757 pay more than a 196 seat A321neo?

They are both >200,000lbs

The A321neo is 205,000 lbs MTOW and the 757-200 is 255,000 pounds, right?

05-22-2019, 01:38 PM

#4463

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Originally Posted by EyeKon

The A321neo is 205,000 lbs MTOW and the 757-200 is 255,000 pounds, right?

Although interesting.. this had nothing to do with pdt pilots being the lowest paid in the industry with the crappiest QOL.

05-22-2019, 01:56 PM

#4464

EyeKon

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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax

Although interesting.. this had nothing to do with pdt pilots being the lowest paid in the industry with the crappiest QOL.

Oh sorry for posting about anything else.

I think we deserve 18 days off a month and credit 115 hours a month! Don't take the money!

05-22-2019, 03:00 PM

#4465

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Is national involved with the negotiations there? I thought they got involved at Envoy. Would be interesting if they only went to one property and not the other.

05-22-2019, 06:54 PM

#4466

Varsity

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Originally Posted by EyeKon

The A321neo is 205,000 lbs MTOW and the 757-200 is 255,000 pounds, right?

Highest Gross weight A321 is 214,000lbs

The E175 is heavier than the CRJ-900. Does this mean AA will offer more money to Envoy than PSA?

DOUBT IT.

05-22-2019, 06:55 PM

#4467

Varsity

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Originally Posted by dvtpilot

Is national involved with the negotiations there? I thought they got involved at Envoy. Would be interesting if they only went to one property and not the other.

They aren't negotiating at Envoy. Envoy's MEC requested ALPA national's finance analysts double check the companies numbers in an effort to keep them honest.

05-27-2019, 05:38 AM

#4468

skytrails

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Sleepy in here. Union ever going to let us know how they are proceeding?

05-27-2019, 06:55 AM

#4469

OversoldCommute

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Originally Posted by skytrails

Sleepy in here. Union ever going to let us know how they are proceeding?

Well probably not, it's pretty typical for a union to not divulge all the details until everything is ironed out. But, my gut tells me if they went with just taking the money, we probably would have heard that by now.

05-27-2019, 07:05 AM

#4470

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Originally Posted by dvtpilot

Is national involved with the negotiations there? I thought they got involved at Envoy. Would be interesting if they only went to one property and not the other.

National by their charter and rules under the RLA does not directly involve themselves in negotiations normally. The provide resources for your negotiating team such as training, legal and EFA team.