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Old 04-05-2019, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
PSA will never care about their actions being selfish. They have set the standard for cutting throats and it makes sense that they wouldn’t concern themselves with the impact that their actions have on others. I’m happy that one of the three of us got a raise, it will come to the other two, but I have a feeling that AAG chose PSA first for a reason.
To be fair let's not pretend that Envoy or Piedmont would have said no if AA offered y'all a $15 raise with no strings attached.

I mean if hating PSA helps you sleep at night then by all means it's no skin off my nose, this is just a job and this career is all about the luck of the draw. PSA got lucky, that's all there is to it.
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Old 04-05-2019, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan
Did you come here because you thought we were going out of business? F9 doesn't have a DEC program, how are ya gonna shake your DEC mentality bro
DEC mentality? What’s that even mean?... bro
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Approach1260
To be fair let's not pretend that Envoy or Piedmont would have said no if AA offered y'all a $15 raise with no strings attached.

I mean if hating PSA helps you sleep at night then by all means it's no skin off my nose, this is just a job and this career is all about the luck of the draw. PSA got lucky, that's all there is to it.
I would hope our union wouldn’t get lured into signing the NDA and get caught up in secret squirrel crap. With all three MECs in communication we would’ve had a fighting chance to get maximum leverage in this situation for the betterment of everyone. PSA played right into managements hands.
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Approach1260
To be fair let's not pretend that Envoy or Piedmont would have said no if AA offered y'all a $15 raise with no strings attached.



I mean if hating PSA helps you sleep at night then by all means it's no skin off my nose, this is just a job and this career is all about the luck of the draw. PSA got lucky, that's all there is to it.


History shows PSA seems to jump at the first offer. No wonder AA went to them first.


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Old 04-05-2019, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTFlyer
I would hope our union wouldn’t get lured into signing the NDA and get caught up in secret squirrel crap. With all three MECs in communication we would’ve had a fighting chance to get maximum leverage in this situation for the betterment of everyone. PSA played right into managements hands.
Hahaha!!! When has our union ever kept people updated??? In the last 5 years, the most communication I’ve gotten from the union has been the past few days over this crap!!!
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTFlyer
That’s very optimistic of you. History says AAG will drag feet as much as possible. ALPA will leave us out in the cold and do the bare minimum just to keep our dues money rolling in.
It'll happen. AA and DAL cannot afford to lose a single one of you to Spirit, F9, Moxy, Xtra, anyone. They are behind the 8 ball but it's going to happen. Even if it happens to Envoy first then y'all merge with them but it will happen sooner than later.

AAG is that afraid of losing you guys. Trust me if you want or not but I know. Huge pay raise first. When attrition doesn't stop get ready for something that has never happened before to happen.
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrPropCapt
It'll happen. AA and DAL cannot afford to lose a single one of you to Spirit, F9, Moxy, Xtra, anyone. They are behind the 8 ball but it's going to happen. Even if it happens to Envoy first then y'all merge with them but it will happen sooner than later.

AAG is that afraid of losing you guys. Trust me if you want or not but I know. Huge pay raise first. When attrition doesn't stop get ready for something that has never happened before to happen.
Says the guy that thinks the status quo is great and that we should thank BF for his insight, experience, knowledge, and has gotten us this “far”. You have zero credibility in my book. Enjoy wherever you are and just stop with the cheerleading.
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:07 AM
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And top it all off the lines that were supposed to be sooo much better in May are freaken horrible!! 14 days off is all we got and hardly any lines with weekends off. This place makes my blood pressure rise way too high.
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTFlyer
Says the guy that thinks the status quo is great and that we should thank BF for his insight, experience, knowledge, and has gotten us this “far”. You have zero credibility in my book. Enjoy wherever you are and just stop with the cheerleading.
The status quo isn't but it's a stepping stone game. If you think I have zero credibility then you don't know who I am and that's fine and I could give a crap. BF is probably the best MECC option on the current list and would support him. You have ZERO idea how things work in that portion of the industry. If you hate PDT, leave. But you wont bc you want the flow. You're part of the problem then. People like you make me laugh.
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Old 04-05-2019, 09:04 AM
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The status quo isn't but it's a stepping stone game. If you think I have zero credibility then you don't know who I am and that's fine and I could give a crap. BF is probably the best MECC option on the current list and would support him. You have ZERO idea how things work in that portion of the industry. If you hate PDT, leave. But you wont bc you want the flow. You're part of the problem then. People like you make me laugh.
How dare you challenge the Piedmont APC Mafia!
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