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Old 04-03-2019, 03:56 PM
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If we do we will be the last one to get a raise. We only get dumpster fires to vote on. Keep your head down and update those apps every day.
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Old 04-03-2019, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrhr5b
Looks like psa got big raises? Any chance this spells good news for us and envoy?
Yup. Unless we do something stupid...
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 123494
Wasn't PDT the last of the WO's to raise the pay rates and bonuses in 2016? We were struggling to fill classes at that time and then the pay raises fixed that. We may be seeing a repeat of that soon.
We sure were. When are we getting the email from the MEC about being stuck in DC traffic and blaming PSA/Envoy for us being late to the party?
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrhr5b
Looks like psa got big raises? Any chance this spells good news for us and envoy?
Good for them.

It would be nice, but count on any changes at PDT coming before they actually arrive... Envoy and PSA pilot groups both got flow increases in 2018 and PDTs got a concessionary TA.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix21
Good for them.

It would be nice, but count on any changes at PDT coming before they actually arrive... Envoy and PSA pilot groups both got flow increases in 2018 and PDTs got a concessionary TA.
Envoy didn’t get a flow increase.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:54 PM
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“The deal was reached even though the current collective bargaining agreement is not amendable until 2023. Rather, PSA management and the Association recognized the need to make improvements now to stay competitive in a rapidly changing regional airline environment.”

Smarter management than PDT’s. Or at least faster acting. Maybe a bit more proactive than reactive. As I don’t think the bleeding began there yet, and probably won’t now.
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Old 04-03-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Envoy didn’t get a flow increase.
I believe he is referencing the direct entry captain grievance you guys had where you are now forcing the company to flow more than the original bare minimum agreed upon for the protected pilots.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sobo
I believe he is referencing the direct entry captain grievance you guys had where you are now forcing the company to flow more than the original bare minimum agreed upon for the protected pilots.
The DEC grievance had nothing to do with flow at ENY.

There is no flow increase at all. There is only a settlement to make a group whole that had less than the the required amount sent to AA.
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Old 04-03-2019, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sobo
I believe he is referencing the direct entry captain grievance you guys had where you are now forcing the company to flow more than the original bare minimum agreed upon for the protected pilots.
We don’t hire DEC’s. We hire first officers and then use 15.G.4 and displace them to captain.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Wink
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9E = Endeavor Air

This post made my day. You win.
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