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Old 08-30-2018, 04:45 PM
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I'm sorry it's time for us to get a labor attorney.....
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:05 AM
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Boss Hogg landed on a frozen river while he was on fire, spent weeks in the hospital after pulling pax out of a burning plane and went back to flying. Keep b****ing about your life and how long it takes to get to American.

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180831/pilot-who-pull-off-1982-miracle-on-scituate-reservoir-dies
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer
Boss Hogg landed on a frozen river while he was on fire, spent weeks in the hospital after pulling pax out of a burning plane and went back to flying. Keep b****ing about your life and how long it takes to get to American.

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180831/pilot-who-pull-off-1982-miracle-on-scituate-reservoir-dies
What exactly does that have to do with labor negotiations?
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:02 PM
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What exactly does that have to do with labor negotiations?
Absolutely nothing. So is he immune from criticism because of his actions? Ask some of the older mainline guys what they think of Hogg and you won't hear many nice things.
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Old 09-02-2018, 05:44 PM
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Absolutely nothing. So is he immune from criticism because of his actions? Ask some of the older mainline guys what they think of Hogg and you won't hear many nice things.
He is a very nice person. You would enjoy his company at a party.
But he is not your friend in the perspective of understanding how to implement a positive style of management. Instead of really trying to run the operation in the manner of Southwest or Delta with many positive styles of dealing with employees, he has been involved with the very negative style used at USAirways, and AA under Parker.
Your grievances go through the roof, your pay is always being screwed with, your scheduling will suck. It will never get better. You got a survey to make you think they care. They don't. If they did, you wouldn't see all the pay problems. It was the same at Airways.
They hire a known labor busting firm, F&H Solutions. Same as at Airways. Pay issues were rampant. He just knows no other way of doing things, and even if he wanted to, Parker would not let him be better. Why would he ever hire someone from Great Lakes, a known dog of the industry? Because he will do their bidding, and most likely he is related to Parker or somebody else in management.
Until people stop coming it will be the same. Expect them to throw more money to attract new hires. None for you.
Good luck. You are going to need it.
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:14 PM
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He is a very nice person. You would enjoy his company at a party.
But he is not your friend in the perspective of understanding how to implement a positive style of management. Instead of really trying to run the operation in the manner of Southwest or Delta with many positive styles of dealing with employees, he has been involved with the very negative style used at USAirways, and AA under Parker.
Your grievances go through the roof, your pay is always being screwed with, your scheduling will suck. It will never get better. You got a survey to make you think they care. They don't. If they did, you wouldn't see all the pay problems. It was the same at Airways.
They hire a known labor busting firm, F&H Solutions. Same as at Airways. Pay issues were rampant. He just knows no other way of doing things, and even if he wanted to, Parker would not let him be better. Why would he ever hire someone from Great Lakes, a known dog of the industry? Because he will do their bidding, and most likely he is related to Parker or somebody else in management.
Until people stop coming it will be the same. Expect them to throw more money to attract new hires. None for you.
Good luck. You are going to need it.
This is the sad truth. Unbelievable that they think it’s the right way to maximize profits.
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer
Boss Hogg landed on a frozen river while he was on fire, spent weeks in the hospital after pulling pax out of a burning plane and went back to flying. Keep b****ing about your life and how long it takes to get to American.

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180831/pilot-who-pull-off-1982-miracle-on-scituate-reservoir-dies
Most of are still aware.. this company had been in shambles four many years.. before hogg as well.
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Old 09-05-2018, 05:20 AM
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Just out of curiosity, how long is it taking someone at PDT that needs the entire 1000 hours for upgrade to join PDT, complete FO training and then fly the 1000 hours and complete CA uograde an be on line?
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From hire date to 1000 121 will be about 2 years
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Old 09-05-2018, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LowandSlow1
From hire date to 1000 121 will be about 2 years
And the how long to be checked to line as CA? 2.5 - 3 years with training backlogs?
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