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Old 07-11-2018, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan
Which is the "official company list"? If they broke the LOA then the union would be doing something. There are multiple lists out there.

Someone emailed a CP about it and they said we were 1 short last month
Indeed - 724 last month - but with July starts we have 21 over!!
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MidLife
Indeed - 724 last month - but with July starts we have 21 over!!
The list on the CP page has us 21 over --- 746 pilots. But that same list had us over last month, yet we were one short. So, which list does the company use?

The union list emailed out last week has 724. Obviously with a new hire class of 24, all logic says we are over the 725 threshold. Just wondering where exactly this list comes from and why it differs from the list on the CP page
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan
The list on the CP page has us 21 over --- 746 pilots. But that same list had us over last month, yet we were one short. So, which list does the company use?

The union list emailed out last week has 724. Obviously with a new hire class of 24, all logic says we are over the 725 threshold. Just wondering where exactly this list comes from and why it differs from the list on the CP page
I think the list comes from the operational needs and staffing shortages department. It’s called the reverse bypass flow program.
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The Company will use whichever list benefits their operation the most. Losing 6/month will only make staffing, both on the line and in training, more difficult.
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by send a check
I think the list comes from the operational needs and staffing shortages department. It’s called the reverse bypass flow program.
Ahhh interesting. I suspected it might've been the junior manning and crew morale reduction department but good to know who to be mad at.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan
Which is the "official company list"? If they broke the LOA then the union would be doing something. There are multiple lists out there.

Someone emailed a CP about it and they said we were 1 short last month
You would think the list regularly published by the company for every new Indoc class would be the official one however...

The Union was approached late in the month of June about the CPs page showing the flow worthy increase and stated they didn’t consider the CP list official but after loosing someone off the list later in a June after the pilot group fell back to 724 they didn’t want to pursue the issue...

1 July the Union published the Union official list showing 724... NH Indoc brought the group above 725... again... but depending on how many the pilot group loses before the day the person deciding the # of flows uses, creative accounting may create another delay in the flow increase.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:55 AM
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The actual number of people on the list changes frequently, obviously, as people leave and are hired, so perhaps even though the CP list shows a given number, that number was only a snapshot in time. When they decide who flows could they be taking the list as it exists in the present moment (and not from the snapshot displayed on the couch page)?
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:14 AM
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The union published a list and it was 724 as of July 1st.


So, there's that.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:43 AM
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Any updates with negotiations?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:36 AM
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Any updates with negotiations?
Crickets!!!

Like crickets after a C-130 just dumped 20 tons of Agent Orange/DDT slurry on their heads. A waste land of silence.
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