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Old 07-01-2018, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
Sir.. the earliest you will everr flow is 2025.. at best and after your bonus year you'll earn about 55k to 60k salary as captain here. i heard we may never get to 6 per month.. as resignations are picking up.. and somehow we're now far away from 725 when cp shirl updates the list with new hires and many losses after the holiday week...
Cool... I never said anything about my flow time or pay. I’m referring to all the people that think AA is a sinking ship and have no desire to work for them. If they really feel that way they should change their flow selection to NO.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:27 PM
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Cool... I never said anything about my flow time or pay. I’m referring to all the people that think AA is a sinking ship and have no desire to work for them. If they really feel that way they should change their flow selection to NO.
No one is going to turn away a job if their flow is imminent. Let's not be silly.. but to wait for the flow over a year.. come here for the flow.. get the worst pay in the regionals.. get the worst qol.. I'm sorry but let's put the koolaid down and pick up the don julio..

You have no idea what the pulse of the pilot group is right now... how half the people are ****ed off and the other half are ****ed on.. plus we just had a group of fos notified they were bypassed for upgrade because they are short on fos and can't pull them off the line.

Wait until your first couple months of perpetual reserve and you get... hey baby.. we got plans for you.. i have to give you the call out...
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Old 07-02-2018, 02:41 AM
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Don’t forget today’s worst is tomorrow’s greatest. Sure happened at Pdt and I’m banking on it happening at aa as well. You want to go to the place that’s awful before it’s good. Look at the best regionals as of late. Remember everyone laughed at SWA too. And Jet Blue. Parker has always lived a very risky business life and he made 20M betting on himself, his employees, and the company. Pre merger w AA. Worked out graciously. If you’re in before end of 19 and the new CBA ya should be golden. After, I bet ppl move laterally to AA. Had a delta guy w 11 months in leave for my NH class. Hope the rumors about hiring slow down isn’t accurate. And if it is, hope it’s just s single month like last year. Not counting December.
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Old 07-02-2018, 06:47 AM
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Had a delta guy w 11 months in leave for my NH class.
Did he give you any reasoning?
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Old 07-02-2018, 07:45 AM
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Did he give you any reasoning?
Unless it was to drive to work, it’s probably because he felt guilty making so much money...
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Old 07-02-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PT6driver
Did he give you any reasoning?
Because of retirements. US/AA retirement numbers become staggering in just a couple years. And unlike Delta, AA has not been proactive in front-loading it’s hiring needs. So a new hire at AA over the next couple years stands to gain a lot more relative seniority than going to Delta or UA.

I don’t remember the exact numbers, but an AA union rep showed me some numbers that said something to the effect that if a pilot is hired before 2021, they will stand to move almost halfway up the seniority list at AA by about 2030.
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:14 AM
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That is only if they hired one pilot for every retiring pilot, which that are not.
The DOJ agreement is expired and streamline and reduction is the order of the day.
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Old 07-03-2018, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Battlinbear21
Don’t forget today’s worst is tomorrow’s greatest.....Parker has always lived a very risky business life and he made 20M betting on himself, his employees, and the company.
Gonna start with this one because it made me laugh the most. He made money because he's sucking the place dry. Buy AA stock and put your money where your mouth is. I sold mine.

Originally Posted by Newstick189
... you guys do realize the debt is due to fleet modernization, right?
No. It's not. It's because rather than pay off debt, AA has bought back it's own stock.

Airlines with the newest fleet:
1.) Spirit
2.) Frontier
3.) Alaska
4.) JetBlue
5.) Hawaiian
6.) American

Wonder who among that list has the most debt? Take a wild guess, and then tell me that fleet modernization has anything to do with American and it's debt problem.

Originally Posted by flysooner9
Btw if anyone wants to change their flow selector thing to NO be my guest.
I am literally crying with laughter right now. I'll consider you a pilot here when you pass your checkride. You called it a "flow selector thing" because you actually don't understand how it works because you barely even work here. hahahahaha. Changing my pants because they're soaked
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan
I am literally crying with laughter right now. I'll consider you a pilot here when you pass your checkride. You called it a "flow selector thing" because you actually don't understand how it works because you barely even work here. hahahahaha. Changing my pants because they're soaked
Oppps i crapped my pants..

I really don't understand the three amount of kiolaid people have here.. yeah i had it for a while.. but about a month into training i realized, you can't believe one thinking you are told here.

When i first joined the place was in the middle of a 180 turn for the better .. today.. I'm watching a 180 into a disaster..

Plus I'm ****ed anyone here 3 years is now making much less than people who just got here.. both fo and ca.
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:40 AM
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Plus I'm ****ed anyone here 3 years is now making much less than people who just got here.. both fo and ca.
Yes. This.
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