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Old 05-10-2018, 07:10 PM
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Probably sent them back to Envoy to get fixed up before they get sent to Piedmont. I heard last time TSA returned planes they were a night mare for maintenance.

Someone said PSA was going to do a lot more DCA 50 Seay flying to cover the TSA stuff and Piedmont’s CLT base will cover the PSA stuff.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:35 PM
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Probably sent them back to Envoy to get fixed up before they get sent to Piedmont. I heard last time TSA returned planes they were a night mare for maintenance.

Someone said PSA was going to do a lot more DCA 50 Seay flying to cover the TSA stuff and Piedmont’s CLT base will cover the PSA stuff.
I have seen that maintenance theory somewhere else on this forum since Envoy has a larger maitnance program to get airplanes fixed up after TSA.
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Old 05-12-2018, 07:01 PM
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Was really hoping that AWAC TA would be something good that could be set as another bar when we vote down our TA (assuming our MEC doesn’t do that for us). Pretty disappointed in their TA as an AWAC alum. We as a regional pilot group are again way undervalued and it continues to show.
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Originally Posted by highflyer0685
Was really hoping that AWAC TA would be something good that could be set as another bar when we vote down our TA (assuming our MEC doesn’t do that for us). Pretty disappointed in their TA as an AWAC alum. We as a regional pilot group are again way undervalued and it continues to show.
When we vote it down? Is your mind already made up without seeing any language? That very short sighted as the company doesn’t have to come back with another offer
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When we vote it down? Is your mind already made up without seeing any language? That very short sighted as the company doesn’t have to come back with another offer

Is your mind made up you are voting yes to the first offer? Kind of short sighted no?

And yes they don’t have to come back with another offer. I think the market will dictate they do.
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by evrbodysmugglin
Is your mind made up you are voting yes to the first offer? Kind of short sighted no?

And yes they don’t have to come back with another offer. I think the market will dictate they do.
What market? The one where we’re filling classes each month? Uh, yeah, okay. Whatever you say...

Just read the agreement and make up your mind then.
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Old 05-13-2018, 05:58 AM
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What market? The one where we’re filling classes each month? Uh, yeah, okay. Whatever you say...

Just read the agreement and make up your mind then.
There is a lot of blue sky right now. A bad deal and this place will clear out. A better offer will follow the exodus.

I agree read the offer and vote with how the offer betters or worsens your position here
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:51 AM
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When we vote it down? Is your mind already made up without seeing any language? That very short sighted as the company doesn’t have to come back with another offer
Unless the TA is endeavor pay, no more interface, 12-13 days off min, trips and duty rigs then yes it will be a no from me.
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Old 05-13-2018, 08:22 AM
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Unless the TA is endeavor pay, no more interface, 12-13 days off min, trips and duty rigs then yes it will be a no from me.
I suggest you read the wording of LOA 19 then. If this gets a no vote, the company will send it to arbitration in which case they don’t need to give us anything.

I’m not saying vote yes just because, I am firmly in the give it a chance camp though. Voting no to play hardball on this type of negotiation might not do us the good I think some people believe it will.
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Old 05-13-2018, 08:35 AM
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Unless the TA is endeavor pay, no more interface, 12-13 days off min, trips and duty rigs then yes it will be a no from me.
It will not be Endeavor pay, period. Trip and duty rigs was also a non-starter from what I have heard. With that being said, are you going to stare at a probable pay raise, more min days off, and no interface or a predictable interface and turn your nose up at it? I know I won't, so I guess in a mock vote we are 50-50 already.
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