Iregretnothing

There are no cons to living in base. Zero. Zip. It will make this the best and easiest job you ever had. Junior Manning is when the company tells you that you will be working on a previously scheduled day off. They can only do this 2 times in one month and no more than 4 times per year. However, they can't do anything to bring you down to less than 11 days off per month. So if your schedule shows you only have 11 days off then you will not be junior manned.

You will usually have a 4 day on trip with 2 days off. Probably will fly 60-80 hours per month.

If you want Philly than you need to cross PSA off your list and never look that direction again. As if right now you are gaurunteed to be based in PHL with Piedmont.

ArmyRWP2018

That is what I expect. 4X2, 5 times per month, ~80 hours per month, ~960 hours per year.

Otterbox

Folks who live in base have a markedly different experience.

With the Complaint is mid trip cancellations without hotels being provided- not an issue if you just go to your car, drive home and spend the night in your own bed...

Triple Premium critical pay going away- folks were milking that for A LOT. Everything was great when pilots could negotiate with scheduling to get 6x pay for helping them out. Now folks lament that pay sucks because that’s being pulled back towards the regular rate as the comapny expands and they’re going through withdrawals... yet folks are still picking up double premium trips to help out schedules.

Training backups- Enjoy your paid vacation with travel benefits while you... schedules will make you work on the back side... Piedmont has the lowest NH rate in the regionals (last year it spiked to 4%... that means you’ve got a 96% chance of completion as long as you keep a positive attitude and show improvement during sim events- airline training isn’t fun nor easy but the odds are in your favor that the moment as long as you’re progressing). Your probation clock is running every day of the delays.

Scheduling abuses- PDT has over 1/3 of its pilot group (40% in the case of NH FOs) in the training pipeline... schedules is going to maximize the # of days that folks are used, even if inefficient (they blame it on a single base with AAs bank system). The company is expanding and taking more Jets so this will likely continue for a long while... for a long time the older PDT folks didn’t mind having min days off 2 months of a quarter when they can get almost every 3rd Month off (they still talk how PDTs contract was regional industry leading sometime in the 80s/90s and every one else passed them but don’t seem mention what they tried to do to stay competitive). As the pilot group has gotten more junior the schedules have become a greater source of complaint.

There are plenty of unhappy folks at PDT, however looking at the attrition rate recently, very few are unhappy enough to actually leave (even the commuters).

As someone who lives in PHL, it doesn’t hurt to look at PSA but it’s a big unknown size and seniority wise. At least with PDT PHL is as close to a sure thing as you’re going to get (and if CLT base opens up PHL will likely remain junior) at the moment.

evrbodysmugglin

Is this your first airline? First real job maybe? Let’s get some things straight. Sick time is ours to do what we want with it. No notes required where in the contract does it say that. Also if I bang out sick. TFB for scheduling and the rsv guys.

Act like a line guy. Not a stooge please.

Iregretnothing

Since we pretty much have nobody on reserve you probably are causing someone else to get junior manned or extended if you call in sick. That is fine, everyone gets sick. But if you're doing it specifically to avoid your ****ty commute, then that is a dick move.

evrbodysmugglin

Nope. Expecting to sit at home and get paid on RSV and then complaining about it is a dick move. Also some guys who are commuters want to get used on RSV. When I sit RSV as a commuter I want that phone to ring on day one with a fat trip.

I think you forgot to turn in your safety patrol hall monitor badge when you left ERAU.

Iregretnothing

I think youre missing the point. Everyone wants to get used on reserve. But if we have no reserves than they most likely junior man someone. Thats why we have such things going on. We can't cover the schedules right now. If we had adequate reserves than you wouldn't hear people complaining about getting junior manned because it usually wouldn't happen. There's really no need to attack my background either just because my opinion is different than yours. Not that I am an ERAU grad but seriously...kind of childish in my opinion.

MantisToboggan

This is false, and the most misunderstood part of our contract. They can't create schedules with less than 11 days off. They can make you work a month where you have less than 11 days off at home

MKUltra

Yeah read the whole section on jr man's abs extensions.. they can make you work and drop below 11 days all they want and they will.. cba says scheduling and pilot will agree on a tradeback day within 45 days... this is coming up right now actually with several people.

Problem is what is agreed between pilot and company are two different things..

inverted pilot

"In addition, no pilot may be junior manned pursuant to I.1.d. and e., on a scheduled day off which takes him below his guaranteed days off for that month, unless the pilot agrees otherwise."

Nor can the company extend you into a day off without your consent (broken plane and cx flight into base notwithstanding)..." In no case may a pilot be extended into an originally scheduled day off, without the pilot's consent."

Both of these paragraphs protect against being forced below 11 days off, whether by extension or jr man. The exception would be if you get stuck out of base on the last night of a trip due to weather/broken plane. Then you will be at 10 days off and will have to negotiate a trade back day, which may occur in the next month. If any pilot here is told they are required to go below 11 guaranteed days off without their consent, they need to contact a union representative immediately.