Originally Posted by PDTFlyer

Those are some incredible “facts” been here over a year and I can’t say that that’s been my experience in the least and I have sat reserve as a FO and a CA. You either have terrible luck or don’t know the contract very well would be my guess. Sorry for your poor experience. Good news is other regionals are hiring so you can always vote with your feet. Best of luck and I hope our negotiations bring everyone improved quality of life.

Originally Posted by iaveight

Lets be honest, they tell you at the interview min 11 days off but normally get at least 13... Total BS, even if you can't hold a line and get a build up they will make sure they put reserve days in your schedule so you only have 11 days off.

This means, you will be on average getting 5 days at home a month if you commute. I will not get a crash pad with 3 others in a room sleeping in a bunk bed with an average of 18 people in a house.

Flow currently is roughly 5 years, which is much better than Envoy which is at 9 years.

Anyone calling fatigued will be monitored to see if you are faking it to get home as a commuter.

Scheduling will try under handed tactics like calling you up to 4 times on your last day off to make you take a later standby which are 14 hours in length. It will not benefit you as a commuter because your last standby will run to 10 pm and they will not release you under normal circumstances any less than 1 and a half - 2 hours hours prior making commuting home on your last day very tough.

While many may call this complaining, sorry guys its just fact and the truth hurts. No matter who I chat with in the flight deck most of the team are fed up work living to work with very low wages.

paychecks for new hires - take home first pay 1500 second 750 while in training. The only thing that makes up for this is the bonus you may have received when you started. First one when you start training and the big one if you are able to get the full 21000 roughly right after type rating.

The second year bonus is not issued immediately depending on which quarter you started.

Originally Posted by iaveight

While many may call this complaining, sorry guys its just fact and the truth hurts. No matter who I chat with in the flight deck most of the team are fed up work living to work with very low wages.

Originally Posted by Alphadriver

Are there more important parts of the contract that a new hire should be familiar with to avoid getting pushed around?

How many days do people living in Philly normally get to spend at home?

Originally Posted by Theaveragejoker

Read the scheduling section for sure. Know how long you have to get to the airport on reserve, and don't answer the phone on your days off. A person living in base has a much better QOL than a commuter. A Philly FO should be at home at least 11 days a month if they live there.
We have a real shot at making this place worth commuting, but I'd take a wait and see attitude on this contact if I wasn't willing to move into base to work here.

Originally Posted by MKUltra

Honestly right now... edv or republic are better choices today for a new hire...

Piedmont had been good to me... but until we get drastic qol improvements, compensation, and the training backlog remediated... i have been pointing prospects elsewhere at the moment.. get time quickly at another place and go to a jet blue spirit or frontier asap...

Unfortunately the fatigue and sick call witch hunt is true.. its abusive and legally negligent... word is the FAA is preparing administrative action and collecting evidence. I can't tell you how many fos that I'm with that are flying sick or tired and they are afraid of management action and loss of premium pay.

Unfortunately the company is willing to risk violations vs tell the parent it is unable to staff the company and does not have adequate reserves to cover sick and fatigue calls.

This past month people have been walking around like zombies..

I know several commuters that only spent 5 or six nights in their home bed this last month.