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Old 01-18-2018, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Theaveragejoker
It's computer based bidding that auto builds lines based on parameters bid on by pilots. It saves the company money, and we will still be flying the exact same schedules.
It reduces staffing requirements by about 20% so be prepared to say goodbye to increasing flow #s by brining more pilots onboard to staff planes. There won’t be as much of a need because the computer can schedule every pilot to FAR 117 mins to maximize efficiency.

And also say goodbye triple premium.

The plus side is more folks should have more time/motivation to work on their apps to get hired at the majors. Piedmont just had a FO who has zero TPIC time get picked up by a legacy. There could be more where that came from if more folks put some effort into getting hired at the majors.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
It reduces staffing requirements by about 20% so be prepared to say goodbye to increasing flow #s by brining more pilots onboard to staff planes. There won’t be as much of a need because the computer can schedule every pilot to FAR 117 mins to maximize efficiency.

And also say goodbye triple premium.

The plus side is more folks should have more time/motivation to work on their apps to get hired at the majors. Piedmont just had a FO who has zero TPIC time get picked up by a legacy. There could be more where that came from if more folks put some effort into getting hired at the majors.
Good for him. Before we got that “amazing flow” the SSP was great. 5 fos got hired to airways when we were not upgrading anyone. One was 27. Been there 5 years. Just had another CA go through the interview process and was hired into the March class. -8 captain. If you’re not trying to get hired outside of the flow that’s just incredibly lazy. Giving up 100s of #s of seniority at the legacies. Last AA class youngest 29 oldest 60.
Hell, my buddy, former ess bee why ca can hold 787 at Yonited, (didn’t know a soul there) also a line on the 75. But preferred the 73 been there <5. The wave will probably rage for a while. But IMO if you’re not at your career job by end of 2019 you missed the wave at the apex. Someone hired today in their early 40s will retire in top 17% of AA. As it stands today. Of course a million things will happen before Early 2040. Wish you all the best who came to Pdt. Long way to go to make this the best regional, but it definitely was considered the worst 10 years ago. Lots of vacancies in important positions in the union now. It’s yours to leave it better than you found it. Thank you MB ZC and PG for all your work you did to keep this place from closing it’s doors not very long ago.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
It reduces staffing requirements by about 20% so be prepared to say goodbye to increasing flow #s by brining more pilots onboard to staff planes. There won’t be as much of a need because the computer can schedule every pilot to FAR 117 mins to maximize efficiency.

And also say goodbye triple premium.

The plus side is more folks should have more time/motivation to work on their apps to get hired at the majors. Piedmont just had a FO who has zero TPIC time get picked up by a legacy. There could be more where that came from if more folks put some effort into getting hired at the majors.
If it means I'm used more efficiently and get more flight/pay time per month, I'm for it, I think? If I have to be at work anyway, I'd rather fly (and get paid for it) than hang around waiting for flights.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by highflyer0685
Unless you’re prior 121 then it’s $10,000 of the bonus and the remaining after LOE
Other way around since last fall. $6,200 during indoc, $10,000 after LOE.
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
The delay has been due to the lack of available simulator time. As Phoenix works out it's issues, I would expect the delay to shorten. Mid year, the #2 Charlotte sim and the Atlanta sims come online. This will change the training footprint for the better.
Additional sim time is available here.

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Old 01-18-2018, 02:47 PM
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Hello everyone.

Will be getting my apps out within the next couple of months. Question about the flow. From the lurking I've done it seems that as a NH today, one would flow to AA much sooner via Piedmont vs PSA or Envoy mainly due to their larger pilot groups and Envoy's metering? Is that correct?

Also, is there a realistic possibility meeting the target for Piedmont to start flowing more than 5 per month? I was reading 6-7 depending on pilot group size?

Once on, I'll be keeping apps up to date however would like to have the flow as an insurance policy because, truth be told, I may very well need it.

Any and all information is much appreciated.

Thank You,
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Old 01-18-2018, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FM2436
Additional sim time is available here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7HMqSr0vG8
I think I might have had one.
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by flybywp
Other way around since last fall. $6,200 during indoc, $10,000 after LOE.
Aren’t they still giving $21,200 to prior 121? It was $10k first week of Indoc then $11.2k after LOE
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Old 01-18-2018, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyer0685
Aren’t they still giving $21,200 to prior 121? It was $10k first week of Indoc then $11.2k after LOE
My bad, I misunderstood your post. I wasn't prior 121 so you are probably right.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OverRadar
Hello everyone.

Will be getting my apps out within the next couple of months. Question about the flow. From the lurking I've done it seems that as a NH today, one would flow to AA much sooner via Piedmont vs PSA or Envoy mainly due to their larger pilot groups and Envoy's metering? Is that correct?

Also, is there a realistic possibility meeting the target for Piedmont to start flowing more than 5 per month? I was reading 6-7 depending on pilot group size?

Once on, I'll be keeping apps up to date however would like to have the flow as an insurance policy because, truth be told, I may very well need it.

Any and all information is much appreciated.

Thank You,
Yes, several years earlier via Piedmont compared it Envoy and PSA.

Piedmont is sitting about 75 pilots short of the flow increasing to 6 and 200 pilots short of it increasing to 7. Flow increasing to 6 could be possible by the end of 2018 if they increase hiring beyond classes of 20/ month. The last 6 months of 2017 hiring (approximately 90 people) only resulted in a net gain of about 15 due to attrition.
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