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Old 01-09-2018, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GuyAF
When is the possible CLT base?
May or may not be this summer.. I would look for an announcement in May to coincide with ROA closing.

CLT would make most sense, makes commuters happy, would make ROA guys happier.

The whole PHX thing.... well that would be nuts to get west coast flying. We already have west coast ground handling...
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
May or may not be this summer.. I would look for an announcement in May to coincide with ROA closing.

CLT would make most sense, makes commuters happy, would make ROA guys happier.

The whole PHX thing.... well that would be nuts to get west coast flying. We already have west coast ground handling...
Were you at pdt when they were going to get mesa 200s and open phx? It's too bad that fell through would be a great base and open up lots of other pilots to the pool. Hopefully y'all get it this time.
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrPropCapt
Were you at pdt when they were going to get mesa 200s and open phx? It's too bad that fell through would be a great base and open up lots of other pilots to the pool. Hopefully y'all get it this time.
west coast regional would be a great mix... forget the northeast winters.. I can imagine reserve though.. hey baby I gout a trip for you.. we're going to dead head you to phx.. dh you to Boise...
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
west coast regional would be a great mix... forget the northeast winters.. I can imagine reserve though.. hey baby I gout a trip for you.. we're going to dead head you to phx.. dh you to Boise...
Hahahaha I hear yea loud and clear.
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Personally I think all the ** MEC’s should get together and come up with a common goal/strategy (Better rates and staple the lists to mainline now and just be done with the flow).

Wishful thinking I know.
Unity against concessions was attempted in 2013-2014. Unfortunately, the large subsidiary took a stand voted against concessions and had its legs shot out from under it by a small subsidiary. In consequence, much pain and suffering was endured by the large subsidiary while 2 smaller subsidiaries benefited wildly from the pain of the large subsidiary.

Unity would be great. Unfortunately, history shows a chronic lack of unity if one perceives one can help oneself by undercutting the group. This is why they love the whipsaw so much.
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
Unity against concessions was attempted in 2013-2014. Unfortunately, the large subsidiary took a stand voted against concessions and had its legs shot out from under it by a small subsidiary. In consequence, much pain and suffering was endured by the large subsidiary while 2 smaller subsidiaries benefited wildly from the pain of the large subsidiary.

Unity would be great. Unfortunately, history shows a chronic lack of unity if one perceives one can help oneself by undercutting the group. This is why they love the whipsaw so much.
Ask the former negotiators what happened (pdt) and what the Envoy MECC said to their faces. The last 2 just left but I'm sure you can get their digits
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PDTFlyer
Well they are better than us, so that makes sense. (Sarcasm)
They were 100% convinced that AA would NEVER reach out to them... the pdt mec
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
Unity against concessions was attempted in 2013-2014. Unfortunately, the large subsidiary took a stand voted against concessions and had its legs shot out from under it by a small subsidiary. In consequence, much pain and suffering was endured by the large subsidiary while 2 smaller subsidiaries benefited wildly from the pain of the large subsidiary.

Unity would be great. Unfortunately, history shows a chronic lack of unity if one perceives one can help oneself by undercutting the group. This is why they love the whipsaw so much.
Yeah the story is a little different than what many think... but it's water under the bridge now. Good times ahead.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:30 AM
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an idea was thrown around in our forum that AA would offer ENY (i assume PSA/PDT too) increased pay rates in exchange for flow (it would require an interview). thoughts?
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ordflyer8794
an idea was thrown around in our forum that AA would offer ENY (i assume PSA/PDT too) increased pay rates in exchange for flow (it would require an interview). thoughts?
Have not heard that at all!
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