Stuck around 850 hours getting frustrated.
06-18-2013, 07:23 PM
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You know you can fly VFR 135 with 500 and IFR with 1200... You have thrown out some numbers but how much of that is PIC? You are not really in a bargaining position and definitely need to be open to relocation... If you are not, I would think twice about spending any more on additional ratings, Etc.
06-19-2013, 11:12 AM
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Jobs won't come to you, you got to go to the jobs. Simple as that. Past employer screwed you around? Use that experience to find the next job and use the contacts you've built along the way.
06-19-2013, 06:52 PM
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There's another problem.
If you're not willing to relocate then you're not going to do well in Aviation. I relocated for three years as a CFI building hours, then I spent a year and a half commuting across the country at the regionals. As much as relocating sucked commuting sucked a lot more. I could have been 100+ seniority numbers higher if I had relocated earlier instead of waiting around feeling sorry for myself.
I'm not sure you'll get much sympathy on here saying that you're unwilling to relocate and are frustrated with your position in aviation. Everyone on this board has either paid their dues or is still currently paying their dues. Mostly the latter.
06-19-2013, 10:08 PM
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Brandon,
Have you looked at some Alaska 135 VFR operators? I know you can't "relocate" but you could live up there for a few months, get a few hundred hours, and get on with your career. A few places up there have 2 on 2 off schedules, and I saw today on the Orange website that ACE Air Cargo in Anchorage is taking B1900 FO's with 500 hours. Alaska is a different environment, but lots of guys did their time up there and its really paid off. Just a thought.
Have you looked at some Alaska 135 VFR operators? I know you can't "relocate" but you could live up there for a few months, get a few hundred hours, and get on with your career. A few places up there have 2 on 2 off schedules, and I saw today on the Orange website that ACE Air Cargo in Anchorage is taking B1900 FO's with 500 hours. Alaska is a different environment, but lots of guys did their time up there and its really paid off. Just a thought.
06-20-2013, 02:05 AM
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If you don't live in an area with a lot of GA and charter traffic, an are not willing to move, you are going to continue to be frustrated. Places like Orlando and Atlanta have multiple GA airports with high levels of traffic, which offers opportunity. If that isn't your story, and you can't get a banner tow, skydiver, glider puller, CFI gig, then get 3 jobs, buy a cheap Cessna 150, and fly it for 650 hours. Then sell it and go get a job, but you will still probably have to move or commute.
06-22-2013, 11:10 AM
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Brandon,
Have you looked at some Alaska 135 VFR operators? I know you can't "relocate" but you could live up there for a few months, get a few hundred hours, and get on with your career. A few places up there have 2 on 2 off schedules, and I saw today on the Orange website that ACE Air Cargo in Anchorage is taking B1900 FO's with 500 hours. Alaska is a different environment, but lots of guys did their time up there and its really paid off. Just a thought.
Have you looked at some Alaska 135 VFR operators? I know you can't "relocate" but you could live up there for a few months, get a few hundred hours, and get on with your career. A few places up there have 2 on 2 off schedules, and I saw today on the Orange website that ACE Air Cargo in Anchorage is taking B1900 FO's with 500 hours. Alaska is a different environment, but lots of guys did their time up there and its really paid off. Just a thought.
06-22-2013, 05:31 PM
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06-23-2013, 05:27 AM
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It isnt Pacwings. I knew some of the people who roughed it out there though and sometimes my gig sure feels like I'm right there with them.
06-23-2013, 09:51 AM
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Can I ask why you can't move? Family reasons? Financial reasons? Comfort of home reasons? Don't need details, just general topic...
07-01-2013, 07:41 AM
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I was able to get a job almost on the spot at 400 hours when the industry was in a worse place than it is now by being willing to move across the country for it. If you're not getting offers at 850 hours with the regionals almost all hiring then something is wrong. I'm betting what's wrong is that you're not willing to relocate.
The regionals are hiring like crazy, but they wont touch him with 850 hours. You are required by law to have a minimum of 1500 hours to operate for a 121 carrier.
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