Champeen07

I know this has been talked about over and over on here, but all of the threads I read did not meet the specifics of my situation. I have an opportunity to fly right seat in a KA 350 part 91. The PIC is an ATP and has the single pilot type rating. Is there anyway that I can log that time? TT, turbine, multi? What if i get an SIC type by completing 61.55. That is the ATP provides the endorsement for an SIC type, and then chooses to not excercise his single pilot priviliges? Thanks for the input. I know im opening a can of worms but I would appreciate it if you could back your answer up with regs or words from the FSDO. Thanks

bbrunton

If the captain is single pilot rated then no copilot is required under part 91 unless there are more than 9 passenger seats installed. So... If there is at least one seat in the aft baggage compartment you can be SIC and are required to be on board.

Ask them to install an aft seat and fold it up against the wall.

You can still sit right seat and get a lot of great experience, but you can't log it unless the captain is a flight instructor and you are logging dual instruction.


Or....

If the items in the KOEL that are required for single pilot operation are not installed... Boom Mic, autopilot and pocket checklist.... Then you are required as an SIC.

Champeen07

Do you have any regs to cite? I believe there is an aft seat already installed. I haven't heard of this before.

bbrunton

Check the limitations of the POH... And the KOEL, in the manual too.



Bill

JamesNoBrakes

The TCDS or STC are what really matter, that would tell you if the aircraft is really for 9 or less or whatever. I know that when someone wants to fly 9 or less with an airplane that seats more, they can often get a manufacturer to modify that via an STC.

Cessnan1315efw

Just log it... Not that deep.

IrishFlyer757

I am possibly going to FSI for a PIC type in the BE350 (assuming they let me get the type with just under 1,000 hours). I am curious if it is worth doing - here's the situation:

The King Air 350 flies mostly Part 91 (so the PIC type would be beneficial on the Part 91 legs where the higher time Captain gives me the leg to fly).

The 135 certificate has the AP in Lieu of SIC clause so without the PIC type I am not needed on 135 legs (unless the A/P is non-functional, but I am pretty sure the A/P is an MEL item so we can't fly without it anyway).

I am working on the owner to install the 2 baggage seats to make an SIC required but I am not sure if that will go through or not.

Am I correct that with the PIC type and a 135 LOA from the FSDO, I can log the legs PIC when I am sole manipulator? Then on Part 91 legs as long as the higher time pilot is not logging the time, I can log it PIC with the PIC type as well?

Thanks for the info.

galaxy flyer

With less than 1,000 hours, no 135 PIC for you. The mins are 1,200 hours.

GF

JamesNoBrakes

For IFR. VFR is 500. 17,500'

IrishFlyer757

Forgive my ignorance, but with an LOA from the FSDO and a 135 checkride, if I am PIC qualified in the airframe, aren't the legs in which I am sole manipulator considered PIC? The way it was explained to me when I was looking at a 135 gig in a BE-200 was that if I was 135 certified by the FAA then those legs which I fly (even on 135) are loggable as PIC legs (even though I am under PIC mins)?

If someone can correct me if that is not an accurate statement, I would greatly appreciate any insights.