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Old 02-28-2010, 08:44 AM
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Just curious.

In pipeline patrol, exactly what are you looking for? That is, how do you tell if something is wrong?

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Just curious.

In pipeline patrol, exactly what are you looking for? That is, how do you tell if something is wrong?

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You look for people digging, tractors and equipment on the right-of-way, and leaks. Dead animals or dead grass usually are the giveaways that something is wrong. Sometimes you can actually smell whatever is leaking. If you are over water, then you can see the bubbles.
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Is technology slowly taking the place of the pipeline pilot? With the use of sensors and video monitoring I would think that they could get much more real time assessment of the condition of the machinery. Or is pipeline patrol just the last in a series of measures to ensure system integrity?

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Is technology slowly taking the place of the pipeline pilot? With the use of sensors and video monitoring I would think that they could get much more real time assesstment of the condition of the machinery. Or is pipeline patrol just the last in a series of measures to ensure system integrity?

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I was told in an interview I had for an oil company that did their own patrols that it was federally mandated they had to patrol their pipelines so many times a month. The frequency depended on the product. I think oil had to be patrolled more often than gas. So it's a law.
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I was told in an interview I had for an oil company that did their own patrols that it was federally mandated they had to patrol their pipelines so many times a month. The frequency depended on the product. I think oil had to be patrolled more often than gas. So it's a law.
Well there was a day when you actually had to have EYES OF TARGET before releasing weapons too That definition has changed in recent years; I wonder if that law will change in the near future too.
About how many miles of pipeline is a pilot checking in a day?

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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Well there was a day when you actually had to have EYES OF TARGET before releasing weapons too That definition has changed in recent years; I wonder if that law will change in the near future too.
About how many miles of pipeline is a pilot checking in a day?

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You might be right on this. I could see a day where a satelite and a guy watching a computer screen is all that is needed.

The company I was interviewing for had around 12,000 miles of pipeline to patrol and they said it usually took around 10-12 days depending on weather.
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Is technology slowly taking the place of the pipeline pilot? With the use of sensors and video monitoring I would think that they could get much more real time assesstment of the condition of the machinery. Or is pipeline patrol just the last in a series of measures to ensure system integrity?

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Yes, there are sensors which can be used to measure some of the things the patrol pilot might observe. Called "Pigs", they are plugs inserted into a pipeline and move with the flow. Common uses for pigs are cleaning, dewatering, and product separation. "Smart" Pigs are able to measure pipe diameter, deformation, and metal loss.

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If you are really bored, here is a video showing pigs in use (mostly cleaning water lines)

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I flew for Underwood for about five months a couple years back on a line up the east coast - NC/SC border to about Newark, NJ. They weren't the best run outfit, but I've heard about worse. But I also heard they were sold about a year after I left, but retained the name Underwood from what I understand. Here is the website: Home Page

The reason I left was I was moving out of the country for a year. Even though it was only five months, it helped drop about 500hrs into my logbook. I thought it might be something I'd get into when I returned, but looking back it just seems a bit too risky for me. Flying all day every day at 500ft in a C172 is just waiting for something to happen. I never had any major problems, but the 400hr pilot who took my place must have inherited the bad luck that never got to me. In his first month he lost a cylinder over Philly in a very urban area and managed to make it to an airport shortly after. The plane was well beyond TBO, which is completely legal, but after a certain point becomes stupid. I had asked and asked for Underwood give me another plane and have the engine rebuilt. It finally happened after that incident. Then, about a week after this guy had the cylinder drop out, he hit a turkey buzzard with his new plane. He was fine, but put a whopping dent in the wing. So he was on to his third plane in under two months. I don't think he lasted more than six months with them.

So for me it's just easier to find another niche of aviation to fit into. Underwood was full of some great people, and I really enjoyed the independence of the job. The decision to fly was up to me, and only me, every day. All I did was call the office each morning to let them know what I was doing that day. No questions asked.

My time with them and in pipeline patrol was short, but if you have any questions, feel free to PM me. Best of luck!
Thanks for all the info. I imagine flying pipeline in the NE corridor would probably have a lot more risk involved versus someplace like TX or OK? I didn't know they had Turkey Buzzards up there. That's a lot of bird!
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Went around those buzzards alot. I've even had to climb over cows! There was a time when I saw the wing of another PLP airplane fly under mine. You spend about 70% of the flying looking out your left window.
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Went around those buzzards alot. I've even had to climb over cows! There was a time when I saw the wing of another PLP airplane fly under mine. You spend about 70% of the flying looking out your left window.
Goodness! I never got that low. It's nothing that I could see from 50ft that I couldn't see from 400ft. If the cows were alive then all was well.
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