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Old 11-30-2019, 11:45 AM
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I have my commercial license and now I just need to build time as fast as possible. I have a Cessna 177rg (fresh out of annual) and I'm planning to hit 48 states in the month of December (weather allowing!) and fly 8-10 hours a day. I'm looking to find another qualified pilot who wants to share the cost and is willing to "rough it" (sleeping in FBO's, hammock or tent).

We'd split the cost of the plane plus any additional fees at FBO's. PM me for $ amount and my phone number. Home base for me is Michigan but if you are willing to fly I could probably pick you up just about anywhere.
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I have a Cessna 177rg (fresh out of annual) and I'm planning to hit 48 states in the month of December (weather allowing!) and fly 8-10 hours a day.
So early in your career to be telling all future employers your judgment is suspect...
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Originally Posted by BryceA8
I have my commercial license and now I just need to build time as fast as possible. I have a Cessna 177rg (fresh out of annual) and I'm planning to hit 48 states in the month of December (weather allowing!) and fly 8-10 hours a day. I'm looking to find another qualified pilot who wants to share the cost and is willing to "rough it" (sleeping in FBO's, hammock or tent).



We'd split the cost of the plane plus any additional fees at FBO's. PM me for $ amount and my phone number. Home base for me is Michigan but if you are willing to fly I could probably pick you up just about anywhere.
Just curious, if you already have your commercial, what are you building time for?
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Just curious, if you already have your commercial, what are you building time for?
Probably toward ATP minimums

Wet commercial is probably around 250-300 hours or so.

Survey and many other places won't even look at someone below 500. If he flies a about 300 hours in December its a viable way to gain hours to be marketable for a survey or pipeline job in the spring.
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Originally Posted by VegasChris
If he flies a about 300 hours in December its a viable way to gain hours to be marketable for a survey or pipeline job in the spring.
“Viable” Perhaps in Vegas. Expecting to fly 8-10 hours a day in Michigan in December in a 177RG, a 200 hp aircraft with no anti ice/deice capability other than a heated pitot, let alone expecting to hit all 48 of the contiguous states in 30 days shows what the shrinks would call ‘poor reality testing.’



https://www.flyingmag.com/safety/weather/madness-icing/

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/36529

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Originally Posted by Excargodog
“Viable” Perhaps in Vegas. Expecting to fly 8-10 hours a day in Michigan in December in a 177RG, a 200 hp aircraft with no anti ice/deice capability other than a heated pitot, let alone expecting to hit all 48 of the contiguous states in 30 days shows what the shrinks would call ‘poor reality testing.’



https://www.flyingmag.com/safety/weather/madness-icing/

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/36529
Those numbers a rediculous....I hope he flies south. This is what I am looking at today. Its cold, but easy to stay away from the moisture.

KVGT 302353Z 09006KT 10SM CLR 08/M03 A3020 RMK AO2

Not to hijack the thread but if anyone is looking to build time at $80 an hour each in my plane from now until May send me a PM. The mechanics are supposed to finally have my plane back to me this week.
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So early in your career to be telling all future employers your judgment is suspect...
What’s wrong with my judgement? There’s nothing wrong with flying to all the states. If anything it’s amazing experience and really helps you get good at your weather planning and problem solving skills. In no way do I want to do anything dangerous like fly in icing conditions. Every employer I’ve talked to though has thought flying to all 48 states was a great idea and would pad the ol resume. Better than flying in circles every day to build time.
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Originally Posted by kettlechips
Just curious, if you already have your commercial, what are you building time for?
I’m time building to get enough hours to go to my preferred employer.
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Originally Posted by VegasChris
Probably toward ATP minimums

Wet commercial is probably around 250-300 hours or so.

Survey and many other places won't even look at someone below 500. If he flies a about 300 hours in December its a viable way to gain hours to be marketable for a survey or pipeline job in the spring.
Pretty close, I’ve got 600 hours and with about 100 in December I can go to the freight carrier I’m trying to get to.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
“Viable” Perhaps in Vegas. Expecting to fly 8-10 hours a day in Michigan in December in a 177RG, a 200 hp aircraft with no anti ice/deice capability other than a heated pitot, let alone expecting to hit all 48 of the contiguous states in 30 days shows what the shrinks would call ‘poor reality testing.’



https://www.flyingmag.com/safety/weather/madness-icing/

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/36529
You’re absolutely right about not flying in Michigan because of ice right now. Maybe that’s why I was flying around key west for the weekend ☀️ and with proper planing you can fly in any state at any time of year. You just have to be smart about it and make sure you do all your weather planning and don’t be stupid. You can spend time on the ground while a storm passes, and keep it VFR in the cold. As Jason Blair once told me “popsicles don’t fly”. I have no intent on turning in to a popsicle.
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