HeWhoRazethAll

+1 to Grand Canyon/Scenic. While the FO pay is pretty dismal and work rules aren't super great, you wont be forced to do anything illegal and the planes are maintained. They have AWESOME pass benefits...no CASS tho. Plus its XC instead of up and downs...might kill two birds with one stone.

TiredSoul

How do you log XC time on repetitive scenic tours?

quix

Seems like they rarely have SIC openings posted on their website. Do you know what the hiring situation for SICs is at Senic? Is it a know the right person kind of thing? Would love to get on with them at some point.

JohnBurke

The same way cross country is logged anywhere else.

HeWhoRazethAll

They have dozens of daily departures to destinations 150+sm away. Don't know how that's anything but x-country. Not sure if they're hiring fos. They're ALWAYS hurting for captains (like most 135s)

Javichu

Mr. Burke, I keep seeing american aviation in different job boards and I can't find to much information about them.
Could you share some information about them? Why working for them could possibly mess with your future in aviation

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AZFlyer

Former SDAZ pilot here. In general, SDAZ always 'needs' pilots, but they don't always need one *today*, if that makes sense. You might be hireable and liked by them but it could take a couple months before an expected pilot position opens up for you from when an 18 month 'veteran' leaves for a new job.

And yes, be persistent. Everyone who gets hired there does more than merely drop off a resume and then disappear (or was well connected).

It's a fun job in a fun sector of the aviation industry, but like any place, there's still things that also could be better about it. None of which would dissuade me from suggesting people go there.

PT6 Flyer

AZFlyer,

Thanks for the info. How many hours are SDAZ pilots able to log? How many hours is a typical duty-day?

Yes, I can see how "once and disappear" would not work. Then, how often should a person turn in a resume? Once a week? And is there any other way to get noticed? Is there a way to get into the "culture" there so a person can become a known and liked entity?

AZFlyer

You can usually fly between 60-100 hours per month, depending on whether you're checked out in both of the main fleet types or just one of the fleets, on time of year, on the group you're assigned to if flying military work. Some military groups will only do a couple loads all day, while some other groups will turn non-stop from sun up to sun down. Just depends on what they need and how much of your tax dollars they show up in hand with for converting Jet A into noise.

There is a fine line between being too pushy and not being heard from enough. As others said, making an in-person delivery of your resume at least gets your face seen and you can give your 'elevator pitch'. If you're a good talker and catch the CP at a lull in the chaos you may get the chance to ride along or talk at length. Otherwise, I don't know, maybe follow up every 2 weeks or so? Just a guess.

As for the culture, well, it's a drop zone. Everyone is there because they like skydiving. Make friends with skydivers, maybe do a tandem at the zone and mention your interest in being a pilot, etc.

TiredSoul

I wasn't aware scenic flights included a landing.
Without looking it up sight seeing flights are considered to be non-stop are they not?