Cape Air
10-06-2018, 01:24 PM
#1942
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 3
Can anyone clarify how the commitment contract works? Their website states "As a new hire pilot you are asked to sign a training commitment letter, committing to employment at Cape Air for 6-18 months depending upon your qualifications when hired." But now I'm confused as some are saying this is only post captain upgrade or post ATP. I would be interested in going in as an FO but probably not if I have to stay for 18 months. And what is the penalty for violating this contract?
10-06-2018, 01:41 PM
#1943
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 214
Can anyone clarify how the commitment contract works? Their website states "As a new hire pilot you are asked to sign a training commitment letter, committing to employment at Cape Air for 6-18 months depending upon your qualifications when hired." But now I'm confused as some are saying this is only post captain upgrade or post ATP. I would be interested in going in as an FO but probably not if I have to stay for 18 months. And what is the penalty for violating this contract?
Do not come here if you don’t have the integrity to keep your commitment, regardless of the “cost” of buying out of it.
The commitment clock starts ticking from the company successfully upgrading you to Captain with your in house ATP checkride. The more time building you need on the company’s dime before that event, the longer the commitment on the other side. Come in with 500 hours, you have to stay longer...
And completely aside from your commitment there are very good career reasons to spend some time getting 1000 multi 135 commuter PIC at cape. Or the spirit flow, etc etc.
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10-06-2018, 02:20 PM
#1944
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 3
Do not come here if you don’t have the integrity to keep your commitment, regardless of the “cost” of buying out of it.
The commitment clock starts ticking from the company successfully upgrading you to Captain with your in house ATP checkride. The more time building you need on the company’s dime before that event, the longer the commitment on the other side. Come in with 500 hours, you have to stay longer...
And completely aside from your commitment there are very good career reasons to spend some time getting 1000 multi 135 commuter PIC at cape. Or the spirit flow, etc etc.
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The commitment clock starts ticking from the company successfully upgrading you to Captain with your in house ATP checkride. The more time building you need on the company’s dime before that event, the longer the commitment on the other side. Come in with 500 hours, you have to stay longer...
And completely aside from your commitment there are very good career reasons to spend some time getting 1000 multi 135 commuter PIC at cape. Or the spirit flow, etc etc.
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Two more questions: How are SICs legally logging time? Are they only being employed for duty periods exceeding 8 hours? Are they only being used on aircraft with inoperative autopilots?
Lastly, how is the QOL for FOs? A thread from a couple years back had some people claiming that the FOs are treated as being worthless.
10-06-2018, 03:35 PM
#1945
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Position: E170 Captain
Posts: 16
Can anyone clarify how the commitment contract works? Their website states "As a new hire pilot you are asked to sign a training commitment letter, committing to employment at Cape Air for 6-18 months depending upon your qualifications when hired." But now I'm confused as some are saying this is only post captain upgrade or post ATP. I would be interested in going in as an FO but probably not if I have to stay for 18 months. And what is the penalty for violating this contract?
Penalty for leaving prior to the end of your commitment is $30k
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10-06-2018, 04:15 PM
#1947
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 3
Do not come here if you don’t have the integrity to keep your commitment, regardless of the “cost” of buying out of it.
The commitment clock starts ticking from the company successfully upgrading you to Captain with your in house ATP checkride. The more time building you need on the company’s dime before that event, the longer the commitment on the other side. Come in with 500 hours, you have to stay longer...
And completely aside from your commitment there are very good career reasons to spend some time getting 1000 multi 135 commuter PIC at cape. Or the spirit flow, etc etc.
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The commitment clock starts ticking from the company successfully upgrading you to Captain with your in house ATP checkride. The more time building you need on the company’s dime before that event, the longer the commitment on the other side. Come in with 500 hours, you have to stay longer...
And completely aside from your commitment there are very good career reasons to spend some time getting 1000 multi 135 commuter PIC at cape. Or the spirit flow, etc etc.
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Two more questions: How are SICs legally logging time? Are they only being employed for duty periods exceeding 8 hours? Are they only being used on aircraft with inoperative autopilots?
Lastly, how is the QOL for FOs? A thread from a couple years back claimed the FOs were being treated as worthless.
10-07-2018, 02:26 PM
#1948
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,595
That's a 100% douche move from the company and I would sue the sh*t out of them if they did that.
A training contract is and should be a no harm no foul issue if you pay your way out of it.
10-07-2018, 02:27 PM
#1949
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 214
That’s if you walk without paying back
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10-07-2018, 02:33 PM
#1950
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,595
By the way, the "not eligible for rehire" or whatever verbiage is used is not in PRIA. It will come up when verifying employment history. You can easily get around that - just don't allow the new employer to contact that employer, and confirm your employment history with first and last paychecks.
I doubt Cape, or anyone, will tick that box. That has zero benefit for them, but opens up a bunch of legal liability issues.
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